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Sooo uh kind of in an odd spot here.

Not getting into too much detail, but Kron, Dwick and Vuk had a bit of fun on Omega. You know, kros being bros (Vaul, that was horrible) and now we uh

There's a slave. FORMER slave on my ship. And she needs help.

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Spent the last couple'a days trying to get her to talk about herself. Whatever conditioning she went through was pretty thorough. It's just "master this, master that" Ugh, it really prickles my hide thinking about this "master." The poor gal doesn't know her name, how old she is, or her clan. I'd say she's about five centuries. The scars and damage on her crest make it hard to tell what clan she came from. My guess is maybe Forsan or Nakmor (which might explain how she gets along with Vuk, of all people)

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Getting her to eat has been hard because no matter what I feed her, she can't keep it down. She's been showing side effects of a drug withdrawal. A couple of medical scans show she's been weaned on something of the sort, might be the cause of her condition but I'm not entirely sure. I think with a blood sample I might be able to find something more precise.

Besides the food thing, my biggest concern is the collar she has on. Tried to tinker with it a few times and it gave her a shock. I don't wanna touch it anymore fearin' it might be one of them self-destruct types. Obviously (and thankfully) it's not triggered by distance, but looks like it's meant to keep its wearer form tampering with it.

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I dunno what to do. She definitely needs better help than any of us can offer. It'd feel wrong to drop her off on Tuchanka, even with a sympathetic clan. I know they got facilities to help with folk to recover, but I don't know any reputable ones. Would they be able to help krogan?
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Hm. Tough break, huh?

Not much to really say on it, shit like this is pretty common on the station, slavery and drug abuse mix together like a house on fire half the time. Could send er' to a good place, or whatever sounds good to you.

But if you don't wanna' drag the poor girl around too much, I could lend a hand if it sounds appealin' enough. Sort of know how to deal with the ex-slave types.

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Well, that's certainly not my choice of a hangout spot for a boy's night out, but I'll respect that decision.

In any case.

Had a job once to help dissolve a slave ring, client had family there. I didn't directly help with the rehabilitation ( I was just some of the muscle that brought the slaver low) but I did get to observe. It ain't a fast or a pretty process, but uh... let's see.

She's not gonna keep food down if she's got the nausea going on. I would definitely find out what drug it is, ASAP. Regardless, if she can't keep food down and time's not being friendly to you, nutritional supplements what which don't need her to keep down food will act as a stopgap measure. Injections'll bypass stomach problems altogether, but I'd be careful cause if they gave her drugs she might very well be triggered by needles. Another solution is small amounts of concentrated levo nutri-paste at a time. If you find out the drugs she was given and they don't clash, you can try some nausea medicine and see if that works.

As for habits, well. There's no telling how long she was in for. You're gonna have to correct her a lot, gently, and do mini-exercises to demonstrate her agency. If you give her food, show her two options and encourage her to decide which she would like. But patience, of all things, is gonna be required. It's a slow as hell process and you're gonna' feel like you're hitting a brick wall over and over.

As for the collar, I'd be right to be cautious. That shit's for super-mega-professionals and I wouldn't trust just any guy with a hacking module on their omni-tool to resolve that shit. What they can do if tampered with just the wrong way is scary. Pay good money and absolutely confirm the quality of whoever you hire. A life's on the line, and I'd rather spend too much to get the job done than have something go wrong.

As for rehabilitation on Tuchanka, I'm out of my element. I guess it'd be a safe bet to check out clan Urdnot? From what I've been able to research, they've had experience taking in the abused of corrupt clans and might know what to do.

p.s. if you need another body for another boy's night out, let me know. that kinda shit rubs me the wrong way.
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Send her to Paerth. They seem to be doing quite well with unwanteds.
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Message to 'Tomkah Tough' wrote: I could walk you through disarming any 'compliance regulators' on the collar. However, I need photos or a description of the whole collar, particularly the control unit and any exposed wiring.

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... I know a few people who could help. Couple of friends of men are ex-slaves turned businessmen and they help out with this sort of thing from time to time. I can recommend a therapist and so long as you don't mind a bit of attitude I got a doctor on call that would find this sort of thing to be 'a challenge worth his efforts'.

I can also give you a few references for some advocacy groups outside of C-Space. Can't really speak for Tuchanka but there's a couple places on Illium that cater to freed, escaped, or recovered slaves. They're still calling it 'indentured servitude' but I've worked with them on occasion and other than that piece of crap wording thing they do they provide good care.

...I also know of a charity, 'The Agros Rescue Fund'. It's run by good people and I could reach out to them on your behalf, get you some resources to make sure she has a safe place and gets proper treatment. Most of my knowledge and contacts is for C-Space but I've made a point of keeping in touch with the few helpful institutions outside of it. I'm headed currently enroute to Macedyn for a charity shoot but I could divert to provide you some support if you're up for it. I ...tend to keep a few things on hand just in case I come across this exact situation.

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I can run it by Laykalar and see if he knows a place for like ex-slaves or some shit. I mean, I'm guessing charities keep in contact with other charities? Don't really know about that pee'ka. But yeah ask him for sure cause he'd know probably.

Oh and where you at? Omega? Tuchanka? I could fly out there for a small price and disarm the collar for you? I used to do bomb defusal so . . . got the skills! I mean it was with a remote drone every time but we still had to learn all the what goes where and what bits go beep and that. Point is I know what I'm doing and I'll gladly help for a reasonable price.
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Tomkah Tough wrote:Spent the last couple'a days trying to get her to talk about herself. Whatever conditioning she went through was pretty thorough. It's just "master this, master that" Ugh, it really prickles my hide thinking about this "master." The poor gal doesn't know her name, how old she is, or her clan. I'd say she's about five centuries. The scars and damage on her crest make it hard to tell what clan she came from. My guess is maybe Forsan or Nakmor (which might explain how she gets along with Vuk, of all people)
You probably can't do this quickly. She'll probably need to spend years with specialists.

Or just get an asari to try getting to her memories via a meld. Because they're probably suppressed, not gone entirely.
Getting her to eat has been hard because no matter what I feed her, she can't keep it down. She's been showing side effects of a drug withdrawal. A couple of medical scans show she's been weaned on something of the sort, might be the cause of her condition but I'm not entirely sure. I think with a blood sample I might be able to find something more precise.
If the image is anything to go by, maybe she's just eating too fast? Because if someone is starving, or nearly so, the last thing you'll want to do is give them lots of food. Try regulating her intake - get her to eat slower, and less (initially), and see if that helps.

Also, if you give her too much, she might eat herself to death, because her body just can't handle it.
Besides the food thing, my biggest concern is the collar she has on. Tried to tinker with it a few times and it gave her a shock. I don't wanna touch it anymore fearin' it might be one of them self-destruct types. Obviously (and thankfully) it's not triggered by distance, but looks like it's meant to keep its wearer form tampering with it.
Can't help you here. Maybe try overloading it?
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Liria wrote: Can't help you here. Maybe try overloading it?
Bad plan, go boom. Guess it'd remove the collar though :lol:
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222_Drussbus wrote:Bad plan, go boom. Guess it'd remove the collar though :lol:
I dunno. Never had to deal with collars before.

Also, something I missed earlier
Tomkah Tough wrote:which might explain how she gets along with Vuk, of all people
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PM to Tomkah Tough wrote: Sounds like a rough situation.

What the others have said regarding the food makes sense, especially if she is coming off of some sort of drug and her body is trying to deal with it, if she'd been drugged up for a long period of time then it'd explain the violent reaction.

The main reason I'm sending this is in regards to somewhere that can help rehabilitate. There is a place I know of that helps break conditioning and rehabilitate slaves across species lines. It's the Luseme Sanctuary and it's in Port Lerama on Hyetiana. When I visited the place there were krogan present and the treatment was helping them.

It's free and funded by the local government and charity. Given the planet's general tendency towards education and learning and such it's considered to be contributing towards a better understanding of the mind and effective treatments on patients who've suffered trauma.

Details here.

Feel free to take it or leave it, but I thought you might want to give it a shot, and I personally know the place is pretty good at what it does.

Oh and keep me sending this message on the quiet if you would, I'd rather not publicize any connection with the place.

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Can you tell what make the collar is? Just because it isn't triggered by distance doesn't mean it doesn't have a time delay. Certain slaver groups have been known to use those as "honeytrap" collars.
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AzureWanderer wrote: But if you don't wanna' drag the poor girl around too much, I could lend a hand if it sounds appealin' enough. Sort of know how to deal with the ex-slave types.

I'm not a slaver, before you ask.
No.

Last I heard you were dealing with new-found biotics. We do not need her getting unintentionally harmed by you concerning that matter.
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Liria wrote: Can't help you here. Maybe try overloading it?
Bad plan, go boom. Guess it'd remove the collar though :lol:
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You are being rather difficult to please, Mr. Kron.
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ShamanKing wrote:
AzureWanderer wrote: But if you don't wanna' drag the poor girl around too much, I could lend a hand if it sounds appealin' enough. Sort of know how to deal with the ex-slave types.

I'm not a slaver, before you ask.
No.

Last I heard you were dealing with new-found biotics. We do not need her getting unintentionally harmed by you concerning that matter.
Not as if I'd use them recklessly. Neither do I have the intention to use them to harm anyone.

Compared to what you might believe, I'm not that stupid.
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SteepedinInk wrote:I can recommend a therapist and so long as you don't mind a bit of attitude I got a doctor on call that would find this sort of thing to be 'a challenge worth his efforts'.
No. She is not a "challenge"
AzureWanderer wrote:Not as if I'd use them recklessly. Neither do I have the intention to use them to harm anyone.

Compared to what you might believe, I'm not that stupid.
You "sort of" knowing how to deal with ex-slave types does not inspire a lot of confidence
Whiteout. wrote:You are being rather difficult to please, Mr. Kron.
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ShamanKing wrote:
AzureWanderer wrote:Not as if I'd use them recklessly. Neither do I have the intention to use them to harm anyone.

Compared to what you might believe, I'm not that stupid.
You "sort of" knowing how to deal with ex-slave types does not inspire a lot of confidence
I suppose my vain attempts at a sense of humour fail me yet again.

Unfortunately, however, I have experience with slavery. I have no need to discuss it any further.

I simply want to help, for as much as it's worth.
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ShamanKing wrote: I'm a shaman. It's part of the job.
Drop her off station-side. There is a slave baron known as Pamper (no relation to that 400-year-old diaper company - did you know they have gone straight into fetish work these days?) who will take good care of her.
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ShamanKing wrote:You two stay away from her.
It was a half-joking suggestion. I've never dealt with former slaves before, so I've got no idea how to remove those collars.

But if I knew where you are, I could come and help a little? Because I also have a date with Vex at some point, but that can probably wait.
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Liria wrote: But if I knew where you are, I could come and help a little? Because I also have a date with Vex at some point, but that can probably wait.
Leave this thread.
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Whiteout. wrote:Leave this thread.
No.

But perhaps you could get helpful suggestions, instead of
Whiteout. wrote:Send her to Paerth. They seem to be doing quite well with unwanteds.
Whiteout. wrote:Drop her off station-side. There is a slave baron known as Pamper who will take good care of her.
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Liria wrote: No.

But perhaps you could get helpful suggestions, instead of
Whiteout. wrote:Send her to Paerth. They seem to be doing quite well with unwanteds.
Whiteout. wrote:Drop her off station-side. There is a slave baron known as Pamper who will take good care of her.
The posts I made are irrelevant because they still relate to the main topic.

Yours is an attempt to re-center this thread around you and your excuse for a love life, which interests exactly none of us.

Stop.
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Whiteout. wrote:The posts I made are irrelevant because they still relate to the main topic.

Yours is an attempt to re-center this thread around you and your excuse for a love life, which interests exactly none of us.
I'm not even going to try and point out just how stupid your suggestions have been, seeing as you don't listen.

And I'm not leaving, so this is all I'll say on the matter - read the tidesdamned thread, Cerastes. All of it. Consider your replies in regards to those of everyone else. Then be quiet.



Back to the topic at hand, did you make sure to scan her for a control chip? Because if you haven't, there might be one in a failsafe mode or something causing some of the problems.
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I might not have experince with slaves or shock collars, but if I can help in any way let me know. From what you said in the orignial post she is a similar age to me maybe some time with another female her age might help.
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proof that literally every titbag is beneath contempt wrote:And I'm not leaving, so this is all I'll say on the matter - read the tidesdamned thread, Cerastes. All of it. Consider your replies in regards to those of everyone else. Then be quiet.
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