[Republics] Leaked Talxu Deal Draws Animal Rights Protests

Leaked Talxu Deal Draws Animal Rights Protests

Yaneeze Mekkoon - Thessian Daily

Dectraton, THESSIA - Vindeta Enterprises faces a public uproar following a leak of plans for the company to relocate a school of at least twenty talxu from Thessia to Nevos as part of a planned entertainment facility.

“We were surprised by this reaction, as this is really no big thing. A lot of people have talxu as pets, and the population is not endangered,” stated Vindeta Enterprises spokeswoman Mari T’Nasi. “Our theme park will be a state-of the-art facility, and everyone will be able to enjoy the talxu there.”

Animal rights activists protesting at Vindeta’s central office have a different view.

“The talxu is a very delicate species, and we have learned from past experience that it will not do well off Thessia,” said protester Oreen Hyseef. “The Reapers have taken a great toll on their population, and they are just beginning to reestablish their numbers. Vindeta is about to exploit a very intelligent and friendly species for spectacle and profit.”

Spokeswoman for the Talxu Wildlife Committee Ehre Loxanne went further with her accusations.

“Sources inside the company have told us that they plan to maintain a constant supply line for when their first shipment dies. And that shipment will die, if you just move them against their will and into a planetary environment they are not suited for. We demand a public vote on the ban of all trade with talxu, and their acknowledgment as a species with rights.”

Matriarchs at the demonstration are conversing with activist leaders, as the protests are expected to continue.

Talxu are a water-dwelling, air-breathing species native to Thessia. They are highly intelligent, and their friendly and social behavior have made them valued companions for the asari since the tribal ages. As they are highly adapted to Thessia’s Element Zero-rich environment, they are rarely encountered elsewhere.

I'm no expert on talxu but what those guys are planning, move reportedly delicate species to an environment they are not suited for, it's going to only lead to dead animals by the bucketload and unneeded strain on native populations. So no, don't move them.

Yeah it really sounds unnecessary...

You know they have something like the Talxu here on earth, they're called Dolphins. Humans make them jump through hoops and do tricks but don't consider them pets for some reason. Thery might as well. The only difference between them and other pets on earth is that they make them perform their tricks for packed crowds of hundreds regularly.

I'm not sure transporting them off world is a good idea either. Animals can rarely do well when they're transported to a different enviroment on the same planet, carting a population of these creatures to another planet altogether probably isn't much better. Especially when Thessia's unique properties are a key factor in their survival.

Not that its a concern with this issue, but animal transport in general off-world can be potentially ecologically hazardous. Ask any krogan about what they think of Pyjaks for example, they have first hand experience with what that can do. Now Talxu are less likely to break out of their aquarium and start messing with the other species on the planet, but it is something to consider in animal transportation in general. You may inadverdently wind up wiping out an entire species or creating a pest problem.

Aw, goddess that sounds awful! How can an asari company even consider that?
They are our closest related species, we share common ancestors! This is not right!

Nevos doesn't need such an attraction, we have our own spectacular sea life.
I was swimming with talxu once on Thessia and it is something else. They are like curious and playful children.

I am totally for such a vote.

Oh, I really hope the protests work. Removing an animal from an environment they're well adapted to and could die outside of just so some people can be entertained by them? That's just awful.

I imagine that enough asari will feel the same way. Unlike the dolphins here on earth you're actually closely related to the Talxu. Potentially putting them at risk in any form will strike a chord with a lot of people I imagine. But I'm not an asari so I can't speak for you entirely, I'm just speculating.

Hey that brings up a question, are there any super religious asari who discount evolution and think that they couldn't possibly be related to a sea creature? I only ask because even today that sort of thing happens.

Riiiiight.

Because, obviously, people who's hobby is protesting the actions of major corporations and the-

I'm sorry let me check.

Ah yes, the Talxu Wildlife Committee would never, ever, exaggerate their claims and make severe accusations without providing concrete proof in order to further their own agenda. (Like, hypothetically, claiming that completely faceless "sources inside the company have told them that they plan to maintain a constant supply line for when their first shipment dies.")

But forgive me. You people are clearly such well informed experts on the situation as to have an unbiased opinion and not do something as silly as to go "OH MY GOD(DESS) THOSE POOR ANIMALS STOP THAT EVIL COMPANY" based upon the unsubstantiated word of individuals with personal stakes in the failure of the endeavor.

Listen, you corporate douche, you'll not remove these cute little creatures, or else I will post in this thread a second time!

But how else am I to make my patent baby talxu leather boots?

The entire situation can be resolved like so.

Are the talxu endangered, yes or no?

Can they survive and/or or form stable populations offworld, yes or no?

If that's yes to both, there's no reason for this to be an issue. If that's a no to either, keep the things on Thessia.

Not sure why it needs to be a Council-level incident.

Oh Goddess, it's the Vetis Marine World thing all over again; hopefully this time it'll get overruled before any actual harm is done. I can't understand how some people can see talxu as, I don't know, 'attractions', like some bit of picturesque scenery or an art exhibit or something.

I suppose some people will believe anything (although even then, I don't think anyone disputes that we used to be water-dwellers - we still primarily were when we were first learning to make lasting marks in coral and stone, so there's historical records still surviving of our coastal water days), but I don't think that sort of belief exists in the sense you seem to be talking about - certainly not based in any interpretation of siari I'm aware of, or any of the major earlier faiths. Athame actually cemented evolution theory in asari learning, and back before the scientific method was really widely established outside of individual doctrines of faith that was what tended to overrule any suggestions that we weren't part of the evolutionary process, and related to other species by common ancestry, in the same way that shorter-lived animals were already believed to be. Score one for the Goddess. :)

Clone them and never reveal your source. Sheesh, it shouldn't be that hard.

I only ask because human history is ripe with them denying their own ancestry. Not as much anymore, but it was big at one time. Hope the question didn't offend, I've been reading up on human history while I'm on earth. A lot of it is a bit confusing to me. For example, I do not understand this thing called a "Ribwich" because I'm not even sure if it was made from actual meat. Also they apparently created a car with front end gril that resembled female private parts, they called it an "Eddie-something", I'm probably getting that wrong.

I suppose in the end it does matter whether or not its possible the Talxu can live off-world and if they can or can't will determine if they go or stay. Question is, how do you test that humanely?

Yes that's possible I suppose but unforgivably uncouth. It lacks that oh so critical sense of...

authenticity.

Once again a perfectly legitimate business venture is met with unreasoned and unsubstantiated hostility ::/ I hope that matriarch will go on, it sounds like a good attraction that could give a much-needed boost to the local economy.

There's nothing unreasoned about objecting to these creatures' health and happiness being endangered simply to satisfy some commercial enterprise... Okay, I can see where that's going. Well, put it this way: ...this is problematic. Is there a hypothetical scenario where you'd value a being's life or contentment over the monetary gain risking it might bring you? Say if someone wanted to make use of your 'workforce' in some particularly hazardous conditions, but derived some perverse satisfaction out of the work being done by old-fashioned bare hands alone, would you satisfy your customer's whim by sending in your slaves, some to be crippled and killed on the job, while your mechs and equipment that could help them do the job safely sat idle?

Forgive me if I come out as rash, but I don't believe we currently have actual proofs that those creatures will be harmed by the company and/or the relocalization.

It's well documented that talxu are specifically adapted to a combination of environmental factors that are virtually unique to Thessia - primarily the eezo balance (they're not biotic, but there are many knock-on effects of having that saturation in the environment), which I'm pretty sure isn't present on any other world where the other environmental factors aren't prohibitively different. Talxu have never been transplanted offworld without, at the least, producing ongoing health concerns, and in an alarming majority of cases the consequences have been far more severe; furthermore our understanding of the species' environmental needs is still somewhat vague in the secondary and tertiary factors, and it has happened that controlled habitats which should, as best we understand it, cater to their needs have failed regardless.

I'm not assuming on the basis of one person's say-so that the company does indeed anticipate their 'first shipment' will or even may perish, but given all of the above, relocating a school simply for the purpose of creating a tourist attraction seems a dubious proposition at best. Like Tal said, Nevos has plenty of attractions - they don't need talxu, so I can't imagine what would justify taking the risk.

you are so right, Daia, we don't need this. This is really just a thing for that company. I hope those greedy tzuholes go down over this

There is a saying on Thessia, when you do something particularly awful, "the talxu won't like you anymore." Because they just like anybody and are liked by everybody. I don't know if this is just you as batarian missing a piece of empathy here, but you just don't do this with talxu, it is wrong.

Now now I have nothing against talxu and I don't want to see them harmed anymore than the next guy, but I would like to see a professional make a definitive statement that this transplant will hurt the creatures, even with the precaution the company took.
I don't think that matriarch hopes to make a profit by showing to people sickly and dying creatures. My guess is that she has a procedure in place to keep them healthy and she did field tests already.
That's what I would have done anyway.