[Citadel] Salarian HV Show Strikes Chord with Turians

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Salarian HV Show Strikes Chord with Turians

Zakera Entertainment Network, Zakera Ward

The Salarian Zakera Broadcasting Network continues to be bombarded with complaints from turians across Zakera and nearby neighboring wards after the popular salarian comedy sketch show "Well Shrell" aired a segment mocking the actions of the Hierarchy during the Reaper War.

The sketch involves the late Primarch Fedorian meeting with members of the Hierarchy, answering all concerns with “fight[ing] them head-on,” whether it concerns his people’s safety, coordinating attacks, or even repairing destroyed infrastructure. When Special Forces arrive to escort him to safety, he gives repeats the line, piloting the escape craft toward a Reaper. This leads to the punch line: Fedorian stating it's "The Turian Way" as the Reaper disintegrates everyone present.

SZBN has already received over 50,000 complaints for the 98-second sketch since it's broadcast four days ago, with significant outrage in numerous turian communities residing within Zakera - Several turian organizations operating on the citadel have made claims of the sketch being "racist", "insensitive" and "dangerously ignorant." One group, known as "Reputable Turians Against Ignorance," threatened a libel charge against the network. Veteran Hierarchy soldiers who had fought in the Reaper War have also spoken up regarding the segment and it's contents, claiming that the staff of "Well Shrell" are not “entitled” to the opinions that were put on show, saying that salarians "have no right to spread such malicious slander for something they were barely involved in to begin with."

Non-turian reactions are mixed, though numerous non-turians have stated that they agree and sympathize with what the general turian populace of Zakera. Others, however, have said that the whole situation is being taken too seriously.

"It's just a joke," one anonymous asari resident told ZEN. "I don't see why anyone has to make a big fuss about it. The writers probably don't believe in it themselves."

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The joke itself was pretty funny, but it was weird to laugh at it so soon after the war...

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RememberTheBlitz
Turians with no sense of humor? Nice job playing against the stereotype.

Of course, the show would probably be getting fewer complaints if anyone on it had a sense of comedic pacing.


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Sundowner77 Caught between heaven and hell
On the long road home tonight
What? I laughed my plates off. That's some funny shit.

Hierarchy don't got no sense of humour at all.

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AllSaintsDay
Heh.

Okay honestly, I've got nothing but respect for the fringies, fought with some, gotten drunk with some, like to call at least a couple my friends.

But c'mon,

even I laughed my ass off.
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Lassie
I like to think I have a pretty good sense of humor. And maybe, MAYBE I would have laughed about this joke in another ten or fifteen years. But for spirits' sake, it's barely been two years. We haven't even finished burying all the dead yet, let alone mourning them. Too soon.

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AllSaintsDay
Lassie wrote:I like to think I have a pretty good sense of humor. And maybe, MAYBE I would have laughed about this joke in another ten or fifteen years. But for spirits' sake, it's barely been two years. We haven't even finished burying all the dead yet, let alone mourning them. Too soon.

See, I've never really got that argument.

...Okay I mean, well, I get it. And I get why it upsets a lot of people. But it's never really clicked for me you know? I'm not trying to go "oh yeah the whole thing was just freaking hilarious man" because I was there for it and really it wasn't all that funny (no shit). But I don't think that that's what the skit was about really. Not laughing at it more laughing about it if that makes any sense.

And if we can't laugh about the big, bad, horrible things then, well, what's the point?

Kinda why I liked it, I mean it took this terrible thing and made it not so bad and I can get behind that.
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Lassie
AllSaintsDay wrote: See, I've never really got that argument.

...Okay I mean, well, I get it. And I get why it upsets a lot of people. But it's never really clicked for me you know? I'm not trying to go "oh yeah the whole thing was just freaking hilarious man" because I was there for it and really it wasn't all that funny. But I don't think that that's what the skit was about really. Not laughing at it more laughing about it if that makes any sense.

And if we can't laugh about the big, bad, horrible things then, well, what's the point?

Kinda why I liked it, I mean it took this terrible thing and made it not so bad and I can get behind that.

I can understand what you're saying. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. The joke just seems in poor taste when we're all still standing up to our waists in rubble and dead bodies from the War, and some wise-ass is already cracking jokes while we're struggling to rebuild. Yeah, humor can help heal, but you need to wield it with discretion in delicate situations. You can't just hack away at problems with it like a meat cleaver.

I mean, this is just me, but if I was trying to lighten the spirits of a friend of mine who had... I dunno, PTSD and was feeling depressed because of it, I wouldn't try to cheer him up by making a joke about the experiences that fucked him up in the first place. It just seems counter-productive and lacking in common-sense.

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AllSaintsDay
Lassie wrote: I can understand what you're saying. I don't agree with it, but I understand it. The joke just seems in poor taste when we're all still standing up to our waists in rubble and dead bodies from the War, and some wise-ass is already cracking jokes while we're struggling to rebuild. Yeah, humor can help heal, but you need to wield it with discretion in delicate situations. You can't just hack away at problems with it like a meat cleaver.

I mean, this is just me, but if I was trying to lighten the spirits of a friend of mine who had... I dunno, PTSD and was feeling depressed because of it, I wouldn't try to cheer him up by making a joke about the experiences that fucked him up in the first place. It just seems counter-productive and lacking in common-sense.

Well see that's the thing, lot of times the whole "discretion in delicate situations" really doesn't mean "where it's appropriate" but more "wherever I think its appropriate". And one of the really great things about stuff like this (in my opinion anyway) is that it isn't bound by that. Was it tasteless an all? Hell yeah. But honestly, most perfectly polite and unoffensive jokes that don't shock you a bit in some way are kinda...boring.

And yeah I get where you're coming from but at the same time, just kinda staring it in the eye and laughing in its face has its own merits.



Okay that was pretty dramatic sounding but seriously, it's good to laugh at shit, especially shit that we all went through together. Like, ever been to an Irish wake? (probably not but just humor me)

I have never laughed so hard or cried so much as I did at an Irish wake.
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Lassie
AllSaintsDay wrote:
Well see that's the thing, lot of times the whole "discretion in delicate situations" really doesn't mean "where it's appropriate" but more "wherever I think its appropriate". And one of the really great things about stuff like this (in my opinion anyway) is that it isn't bound by that. Was it tasteless an all? Hell yeah. But honestly, most perfectly polite and unoffensive jokes that don't shock you a bit in some way are kinda...boring.

And yeah I get where you're coming from but at the same time, just kinda staring it in the eye and laughing in its face has its own merits.


Okay that was pretty dramatic sounding but seriously, it's good to laugh at shit, especially shit that we all went through together. Like, ever been to an Irish wake? (probably not but just humor me)

I have never laughed so hard or cried so much as I did at an Irish wake.

I'm actually probably one of the few Turians who DOES know what an Irish wake is. A significant number of human recruits we've been getting to C-SEC in recent years are from the New York City Police Department, and apparently the NYPD has a lot of strong Irish traditions. I've been to a few Irish Wakes for officers fallen in the line of duty, and I'll admit it helped to laugh about things that happened in their life. There was a lot of crying too, but laughing and crying.

I can see the point you're trying to make. It's actually kind of commendable really, trying to get over things by laughing at them in the face. But I just don't think it works in this situation; trying to laugh at a horrific war that left the galaxy in ruins and that we still haven't recovered from. Not yet. But like you said, that's just me. What do I know? And I know I'm most-likely not going to be able to convince you otherwise anymore than you're going to be able to convince me, so I'll just back off for now.

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AllSaintsDay
Nah, nah it's cool. You seem like an alright guy an I don't mind talking stuff over you know? Wouldn't be here otherwise.
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Lassie
AllSaintsDay wrote:Nah, nah it's cool. You seem like an alright guy an I don't mind talking stuff over you know? Wouldn't be here otherwise.

Same to you buddy. It's all good.

...Hey, we just had a legitimate disagreement over something on the extranet, and we didn't get into an argument filled with cursing and racist comments from it.

I think this calls for a celebration!

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SteelUnifier Die for the Cause
This is embarrassing. Embarrassing because of who made it, embarrassing because how how it represented Fedorian, embarrassing because of what it says about turians, and embarrassing because of the level of disrespect it shows to the contribution and the level of sacrifice that the turian species made in the war. Embarrassing because apparently people think this is funny.

I literally cannot comprehend how you people can defend it, or shoo it away as people 'taking it too seriously' or implying that any 'satire' here is valid and the only problem is that it's 'too soon', when all it does is insult people who sacrificed almost everything - fought in the worst battlefield of the Reaper War, our former Primarch, and packages it in woefully inflammatory rhetoric.

This is shit you'd see broadcast on fucking DDS.

If this skit were about Admiral Hackett, the humans, the fall of Earth, and insulting indoctrination camp survivors, that would be just as fine, right?

How you people can't consider this as being over the line is fucking baffling.
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AllSaintsDay
SteelUnifier wrote: If this skit were about Admiral Hackett, the humans, the fall of Earth, and insulting indoctrination camp survivors, that would be just as fine, right?

...yeah?
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Capice Shepard Lives!
Okay, the sketch is hilarious and council race should be able to take a little ribbing.

I wouldn't want to take it from Salarians. What would the joke be if the skit was reversed? "Do something illegal and underhanded?"

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Law and Honor Holder of Judiciary office, at your service.
Capice wrote:Okay, the sketch is hilarious and council race should be able to take a little ribbing.

.... ribbing?


Portraying one of the Primarchs as a "Meat Grinder" leader that gets everyone killed for literally no reason, a turian who fought and bled with the best of them, and then trying to say that all turians are that inept, in the context of the Reaper war is....

Ribbing?!
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dwik
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an' ter think i thought dem frogs'd lost dem balls completely


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Harrad_​01
Capice wrote:Okay, the sketch is hilarious and council race should be able to take a little ribbing.

"Ribbing" is when someone cracks wise about my cough. This is portraying Turians as a bunch of thoughtless bullheaded twits. I don't even know why the article suggests that people "claim" the article is racist. It is racist. And people will just try to brush it off as "oh, the Turians can't take a joke", which is kind of amazing because it's like watching Eightball point his finger at someone up to their eyeballs in red sand and claim that they're not high.

"It's racist but it's okay because it's funny" isn't actually an excuse. It's disgusting and really only reflects poorly on the person making it.

Seriously, guys. Uncle Garm-Garm has had episodes about this. It's that simple to understand.
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SigningOn
Kind of have to agree with the turians here, while I do not think ZEN meant to honestly offend anyone, it is still in pretty poor taste.

Though I do have to ask, What is political satire like amongst turian humorists as opposed to other species.

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dwik
LookingForWork wrote:Kind of have to agree with the turians here, while I do not think ZEN meant to honestly offend anyone, it is still in pretty poor taste.

Though I do have to ask, What is political satire like amongst turian humorists as opposed to other species.

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