I can't take it anymore

a thread by ~~~Dwick's #1 Pyjak~~~ started on 2188-08-17 13:47:14 last post on 2188-08-20 23:15:27


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~~~Dwick's #1 Pyjak~~~ Always watching


okay dudes and dudettes, I have a problem. An annoying problem.

My carapace (yes i'm a turian!!!) won't stop flaking. No ointment, salve, or any (shitty) medication has worked and oh for the love of the fucking spirits i am going insane because it itches like shit

one of you guys has to help me out because the rest of the extranet is useless (i'm not bathing in tupari what the fuck kind of cure is that holy shit)

I will give you one freebie in the vast, marvelous world of the information trade if your advice is good!!!
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The Flesh Vats
'kay three things, how big are the flakes, are you flaking all over or just a part, and is the carapace under them soft or hard?
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~~~Dwick's #1 Pyjak~~~ Always watching


small to medium sized, all-over, and hard.
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Doctor Love
Ok, the first thing I'm going to ask you to do is calm down and prepare to assess yourself objectively. There are a number of factors that influence turian physiology to result in itching or flaking carapace; including ageing, mineral deficiency, alergic reaction, fungal infection, and some obscure and admittedly difficult to treat sexually transmitted diseases.

I want to start with a couple of basics to help categorize this:

If you had to characterize it, would you say the itching or the flaking is a side effect of the other? Does the section of carapace appear otherwise normal but itches until you start scratching and it then starts flaking off?

Are you noticing any bumps or clusters of bumps at the site of the itching?

Similarily, are you noticing any significant clusters of bumps in the recesses?

Likewise, any discoloration?

Do you also feel itching in areas with minimal plating around the soft tissue? Underarms, inner knees, etc.

Is the flaking more of a clustered shale or are there tiny strings of skin-like tissue holding them together?

Have you had any intimate encounters with any person (or otherwise) within two weeks before you started noticing these symptoms? (I understand it may seem personal, but this is very important.)

I'd also like to know what other potential causes have been suggested to you by the physician who prescribed you the medication.
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The Flesh Vats
Hmm you don't happen to have a darker complexion. And, if you do were you fleet or infantry during your service? (assuming you did your 15 of course)

Because if you were infantry and have a darker complexion, it's just one of the geneboosts you got during service that's wearing off. You could either just suffer through it, should be a few months or contact medical and re-up it.
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Harrad_​01
You don't have any allergies, do you?

I've got to avoid naltha root to pretty much avoid what's going on with you right now, although my carapace flakes were always pretty small (and I've got a light complexion).

The geneboost idea is possible, but from what I've heard it almost always wears out slowly over time, so having a big change is probably something you should be doing is seeing a doctor. But you're already doing that instead of going to the extranet first, right?

Good luck!
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~~~Dwick's #1 Pyjak~~~ Always watching


Doctor Love wrote:Ok, the first thing I'm going to ask you to do is calm down and prepare to assess yourself objectively. There are a number of factors that influence turian physiology to result in itching or flaking carapace; including ageing, mineral deficiency, alergic reaction, fungal infection, and some obscure and admittedly difficult to treat sexually transmitted diseases.

I want to start with a couple of basics to help categorize this:

If you had to characterize it, would you say the itching or the flaking is a side effect of the other? Does the section of carapace appear otherwise normal but itches until you start scratching and it then starts flaking off?

Are you noticing any bumps or clusters of bumps at the site of the itching?

Similarily, are you noticing any significant clusters of bumps in the recesses?

Likewise, any discoloration?

Do you also feel itching in areas with minimal plating around the soft tissue? Underarms, inner knees, etc.

Is the flaking more of a clustered shale or are there tiny strings of skin-like tissue holding them together?

Have you had any intimate encounters with any person (or otherwise) within two weeks before you started noticing these symptoms? (I understand it may seem personal, but this is very important.)

I'd also like to know what other potential causes have been suggested to you by the physician who prescribed you the medication.

The flaking is definitely a side-effect of the constant, maddening itching.

Yes, there are bumps. Yes.

Well... my carapace has gotten a lot more dull looking when IT ISN'T COMING OFF

it's not a std. that is impossible

Harrad_01 wrote: But you're already doing that instead of going to the extranet first, right?

Good luck!

Dude I'm not going to any doctor in this area. Even if I have to walk around with parts of my plates sloughing off for the rest of my life

And I'm pretty sure there is nothing in my general vicinity I'm allergic too. Unless someone has been drugging me with breaxiol when I wasn't looking

The Flesh Vats wrote:Hmm you don't happen to have a darker complexion. And, if you do were you fleet or infantry during your service? (assuming you did your 15 of course)

Because if you were infantry and have a darker complexion, it's just one of the geneboosts you got during service that's wearing off. You could either just suffer through it, should be a few months or contact medical and re-up it.

...

brb gotta check the side effects of some... things

those motherfuckers
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The Flesh Vats
Harrad_01 wrote:The geneboost idea is possible, but from what I've heard it almost always wears out slowly over time, so having a big change is probably something you should be doing is seeing a doctor.
Yeah he should probably go see a doc, but if the guy is on the extranet it means he probably don't want to. It's probably just the Semper Mite/Chiru boost running out, it sometimes causes flaking with people with darker plates due to genetics or something. I know it's been a problem for decades, but they keep using it because it's cheaper and does the job, they figure a few months of itching don't kill anyone. Spirits know they have the same philosophy 'bout MRE rations.
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Vigilance Ever vigilant, for they are watching.
Sounds like scale itch. When was the last time you got drunk around a varren?

C-Sec mail [here], personal [here], FEMES [here]. Is that all? Can I go?
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asari_​promiscuity
Shadow_Pyjak314 wrote:it's not a std. that is impossible
For what it's worth, I'd agree - if you've tried and eliminated the usual treatments for those symptoms, that doesn't sound like anything sexually transmitted I've heard of, including long-latency infections. (If it turns out I'm wrong, please do let me know - in private if you'd prefer - since I'd hate to not know anything of that sort.)

It may sound entirely out of nowhere, but if/until you find a fix, perhaps try a bit of ankta oil diluted 1:10 in water? I had a cousin a couple hundred years back who had Calax syndrome and (poor guy) a nasty allergy to the active ingredient in the whole t-plus range of treatments for carapace itch. Ankta worked like a charm.

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Broke Biology Maybe.
Just go see a doctor.

I can't believe your first instinct when faced with a flaking carpace is to look for help here.
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Titus-Train ^ That guy is Major Titus Scapula.
Broke Biology wrote: I can't believe your first instinct when faced with a flaking carpace is to look for help here.
To be fair, that's the reaction quite a few people have. I seem to recall someone getting kidnapped and asking for help here, someone crash landed on a planet and posted for help here, someone was bleeding out in an alley and posted here, someone got shot and asked here.

Honestly, this ranks pretty low on the 'things to ask CDN' scale.

Ain't nothin' can stop the Titus-Train!
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Vigilance wrote:Sounds like scale itch. When was the last time you got drunk around a varren?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHA

ha

You're on my shitlist now, pal

It may sound entirely out of nowhere, but if/until you find a fix, perhaps try a bit of ankta oil diluted 1:10 in water? I had a cousin a couple hundred years back who had Calax syndrome and (poor guy) a nasty allergy to the active ingredient in the whole t-plus range of treatments for carapace itch. Ankta worked like a charm.

I have bathed in almost every home remedy you can think of (except for tupari because i am not insane)

But I'll put this on my list too! It isn't like bathing in one more gross thing can't hurt!

Broke Biology wrote:Just go see a doctor.

NO


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Harrad_​01
Shadow_Pyjak314 wrote:NO

What Hierarchy-less pit are you in that you can't find a decent doctor?
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~~~Dwick's #1 Pyjak~~~ Always watching


The biggest pit of them all in the Terminus obviously
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Doctor Love
Shadow_Pyjak314 wrote:Yes, there are bumps. Yes.

Well... my carapace has gotten a lot more dull looking when IT ISN'T COMING OFF

Then I'd be leaning more towards some kind of fungal infection attacking skin tissue.


Shadow_Pyjak314 wrote:it's not a std. that is impossible

I'll take your word on that one, but advise you to consider the possibility in as frank and objective a manner as possible.


Shadow_Pyjak314 wrote:
Speaking of People with Scale-Itch wrote:Hmm you don't happen to have a darker complexion. And, if you do were you fleet or infantry during your service? (assuming you did your 15 of course)

Because if you were infantry and have a darker complexion, it's just one of the geneboosts you got during service that's wearing off. You could either just suffer through it, should be a few months or contact medical and re-up it.

...

brb gotta check the side effects of some... things

I haven't heard of this condition, again I'd recommend seeing a dermatologist that specializes in turians, regardless of your apparent concerns.


asari_promiscuity wrote:For what it's worth, I'd agree - if you've tried and eliminated the usual treatments for those symptoms, that doesn't sound like anything sexually transmitted I've heard of, including long-latency infections. (If it turns out I'm wrong, please do let me know - in private if you'd prefer - since I'd hate to not know anything of that sort.)

I'd like to be kept in the loop if this is the case as well, there are precidents for patient studies on new ailments that protect the anonymity of the patient.

asari_promiscuity wrote:It may sound entirely out of nowhere, but if/until you find a fix, perhaps try a bit of ankta oil diluted 1:10 in water? I had a cousin a couple hundred years back who had Calax syndrome and (poor guy) a nasty allergy to the active ingredient in the whole t-plus range of treatments for carapace itch. Ankta worked like a charm.

Of course, if it is fungal, that itching sensation is going to turn into a burning sensation right quick.
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The Flesh Vats
Doctor Love wrote:
Shadow_Pyjak314 wrote:Yes, there are bumps. Yes.

Well... my carapace has gotten a lot more dull looking when IT ISN'T COMING OFF

Then I'd be leaning more towards some kind of fungal infection attacking skin tissue.
Wouldn't a fungal infection be more localized? At least at first, I know some, like Putrescat Laminam, can spread before its symptoms become apparent. But that's uncommon, most would have present symptoms before they had covered the whole of the body.
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asari_​promiscuity
Doctor Love wrote:
asari_promiscuity wrote:It may sound entirely out of nowhere, but if/until you find a fix, perhaps try a bit of ankta oil diluted 1:10 in water? I had a cousin a couple hundred years back who had Calax syndrome and (poor guy) a nasty allergy to the active ingredient in the whole t-plus range of treatments for carapace itch. Ankta worked like a charm.
Of course, if it is fungal, that itching sensation is going to turn into a burning sensation right quick.
Do you think? At that dilution, it'd be quite mild, if anything. Is there a possibility of ankta reacting more severely or something like that?

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Broke Biology Maybe.
Shadow_Pyjak314 wrote: NO

Then just go see a doctor online? I don't see what's stopping you from doing that.

Although I don't see what's stopping you from going out to see a do-

Shadow_Pyjak314 wrote:Terminus

You're already dead.
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Doctor Love
The Flesh Vats wrote:Wouldn't a fungal infection be more localized? At least at first, I know some, like Putrescat Laminam, can spread before its symptoms become apparent. But that's uncommon, most would have present symptoms before they had covered the whole of the body.

Laminam has a number of subsets that start issuing symptoms after it starts adapting to the dermis it's attacking. Typically it can start out as very mild itch that then spreads to other parts of the patients body via skin-to-skin contact and particularly by hand, only to become especially irritating at the point it becomes self-competitive (which is roughly at the point where it becomes so detrimental to turian carapace)

More to the point, it's the bumps that concern me, the difference between those triggered by the relevant fungal infections are usually very distinct from those you see resulting from alergic reactions. Tending to be more calloused.

asari_promiscuity wrote:Do you think? At that dilution, it'd be quite mild, if anything. Is there a possibility of ankta reacting more severely or something like that?

Oh, absolutely.

To use Putrescat Laminam as the example again, while the oil can have a soothing numbing effect on the impacted tissue, it doesn't treat the underlying problem, as sensation returns it tends to become painful. The effect can also trigger a certain yellowing effect on quarian skin tissue, but I don't think that would happen to a turian.

Shadow, you really should see a doctor.

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