A debate about moron hanar and opinions

I was just in this thread,here, and I came into the makings of a good debate (at least, it looks good to me, probably gonna turn into an insult match) Anyway, I said,






Then








Here is the grounds for my debate, When DWICK or I make total asses of ourselves, the entirety of Krogan kind is judged on our actions. If this applies to my race, why shouldn't they apply to the Hanar?

The entirety of a species is not represented by a few of its members, even if they are prolific like Dwick.

It's foolish to believe otherwise.

Because the most widely known conceit of the little lanterns is one of impeccable politesse and etiquette. The most common krogan caricature is a slobbering, rage driven brute who calls into question the very fundamentals of natural science. Thus when a hanar is uncouth and venomous it is an outlier and easily dismissed yet when a krogan is foul, rough, or comports himself as an unlettered barbarian he is a confirmation of an idea that has been perpetuated since our advent into the galactic community.

That there would be such an outpouring of joy if you and your ilk could be left to judgement and hanging on your own merits or lack thereof has no bearing on the reality.

Um, I generally presume that most Hanar harbour some anti-drell prejudice?

Granted, I assume that most random hanar are between a 2-4 on the 8 point scale while Ser I-Have-No-Soul is at 9.

I challenge you to walk up to the nearest person and ask them their opinion of the Krogan. Either they will say that we are trying to progress as a species, an opinion spawned by Urdnot Wrex, or that we are a race of worthless brutes, opinion courtsy of general temperament of your most common Krogan


Ser I-Have-No-Soul: (I kinda like that) It never suprises me that you keep forgetting that your no different than I



Capice: I enjoy your opinion of the runt

I think "Ser I have no Soul" is the so-called "humble hanar."

Ah, well it fits to the runt as well, I mean, have you read any of his posts?

The Urdnot whore may not claim that as his own, not on the backs of the thousands who toiled here, eking out a living on a blasted and blighted homeworld as he whiled away his days playing bounty hunter and mercenary. Not on the names of the fathers and sons, mothers and daughters who survived and endured outside his sight and thought. We were krogan before he ever deigned to assume his station. We will be krogan long after his Coalition crumbles away.
Which persists because of clanless like yourself, bandits and scum that rather than serve their people, their clans, elect instead to indulge in decadence and vice. You, poor pitiful creatures that you are, are the kind that galaxy sees the most. Not the fallen brotherworlds, the scattered exodites, or those of us remained behind but you. Not those who built and struggled but you, a walking parasite wearing the skin of a krogan.
I can articulate myself.
How desperate must you be for recognition that you see naught but agreement wherever you turn?

Out of curiosity.... Why call Urdnot Wrex a whore? I mean, I get being contrary to Isadore. He's not the brightest bulb. Urdnot Wrex is being a leader, a unifying force on Tuchanka, something your people desperately needed.

The Genophage is cured, and Urdnot Wrex is associated with its curing. Yes, he will die eventually, as all beings do, but he is trying to make the krogan be seen as more than just the attack horde. The group that can get out of control. He's trying to make it so that something like the Genophage never happens again.

You can bark about me leaving that forsaken chunk of rock all you want, It wont change that I'm not there and that you are.


What is the value of a well mannered Pyjak? It still raids your food, steals your drink. It still takes anything it can get its talons on, it just smiles while in the act.

The history of the krogan is one of ill gotten victories and poisoned gifts. So much of what we have or had was granted to us for our services, for our potential use, and like children we swallowed that venom and listened while they called it medicine. Did we require a leader? Yes. But a leader who obtains their position on the merits of others, of aliens no matter how vaunted and clanless no matter how storied, on blatant blaggardry is

well

no leader at all.

Why do I call our glorious king a whore? Because he is. A common whore who sold his hide and his name for power and prestige and cheapened all.

And where was this grand Overlord in the intervening centuries? Where was this beacon of krogan civilization when us poor uncultured folk endured in our backward way amongst the wreckage?

Hacking off his balls and selling the remainder to the highest bidder, scum no better than that fattened whelp who calls himself whatever title he thinks will garner him the most respect who started this thread. And when he at last tired of his pursuits and elected to return he did so in defiance of all others. He spat upon his would be allies and beloved enemies and determined that he and he alone was worthy to impose on the rest, even bereft of honor and worth as he was.

What he does now is not to the true improvement of the krogan, it is another molding, another attempt to press us as a people into a form more pleasing to aliens and malcontents. It is not us; only what that vermin thinks we ought to be.

That you say that as if I should be ashamed speaks volumes.
Clanless if you are going to ape the speech of your betters do us the courtesy of borrowing their ingenuity as well.

Oh no, you be whatever you want to be, if that's ashamed, that's you. personally, leaving that damned rock was the best decision I ever made, because I finally got to see outside of what is instilled in every Krogan at birth (that be that your best friends are the dead ones and everybody that's alive is tryin ta kill yeh.)

And here I thought that your Clan encompassed only the most enlightened and learned that our kind has to offer, a beacon among all those savage, crude souls upon the homeworld.

I just noticed something. Literally every time you enter a conversation that I'm in, the entire thread is derailed and ends with the Cerbie ad server getting the last word.

To answer you, I wasn't referring to my clan, I was referring to yours and near every other on that rock. Now, unless you got summat worth wasting the space on my thread with, go.

The point you sad, sad squandering of scales and hide is that you were not raised amongst the other Clans but within a group that was, by your telling, clever and peaceful and a defiance of all that you think krogan are.

Surely such pinnacles of study and kindness would raise their young to know better considering that

well

as you say mine and near every other on "that rock" also do better than what you describe.

To forgo further humor for the sake of clarification: by your own tongue you call yourself a liar and I would hesitate to state that you have any actual knowledge of my kind or, now that I think 'pon it, are a krogan in actuality.
And considering what you oftentimes choose to discuss initially, the galaxy is better for it I would think.

We were far from kind, now go refuse.

Yeah, 'cause it's totally preferable to die alone. I want the situation of my people to improve, and I want the hanar to preen less, but yeah, take the deal and get out here! Nobody knows how to make it alone.

But you are dissing someone for being a member of the Normandy Crew. With Mordin Solus. And Tali'Zorah. And the Fucking Legion. Kind of a visionary badass collection Shepard had going there. You are an idiot and cannot be helped.

Also we seem to be having a "is X really MY RACE" discussion, which is never derailing and unproductive.

Because the galaxy is by and large full of hypocrites who will tolerate the species of jellyfish with their own race of 'indentured servants' that make them live on a planet that is literally killing them (rumors even circulated that the creatures were getting their own council seat before humans came into the picture), while patting themselves on the back when it comes to criticizing my people for daring to make the geth. Or the krogan not knowing how to adapt to the wider galaxy (because surprise, surprise when you rip a species not ready for space travel to fight your little wars you run into problems later!) all while failing to mention they have a race of slaving monsters just hovering right behind them, only getting away with it because 'they are polite and the drell seem to enjoy servitude!'

Joining a spaceborne menagerie does not qualify a man to speak for his species nor grants him the right of command. It merely makes him a particularly lucky beast as to have such allies.

This is why the Cerberus agents and crew and contacts who oh so valiantly served beside the Commander are not held to be paragons of humanity and the saviors of their kind.

I would rather not let the precedence established by the clanless stand uncontested. Your offended sensibilities are not my concern.

But they deserted Cerberus to stay on the Normandy-at least the big ones I think you're talking about.

Seriously, menagerie? That's the word you're going to use for the greatest collection of...they saved the galaxy! They brought revolution to their races! T'soni rewrote all our history! There's a reason Shepard gets worshiped as an Enkindler. It's not really about her individual awesomeness.

Wrex got the genophage fixed and led you into battle against something HUGE, and now you get to be part of the only civilization to live through the Reapers. If you held a vote tomorrow I think he'd win. What more could you possibly want?

I would rather not let the precedence established by the clanless stand uncontested. Your offended sensibilities are not my concern.[/quote]

It's just an idiot argument is all. Arguing over who is a real Krogan and has an authentic upbring and ughhh~

If I could forever ban the drell from those kinds of arguments I would.