[Science] Geth Construction Collective Announces New Platform

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Geth Construction Collective Announces New Platform

Vesnic Veghae, Eye on the Veil Blog

The Geth Construction Collective announced today that it would be introducing a new standard mobile platform. The new platform, called the “Basic Bipedal Platform for Geth, Iteration 732,” is in many respects a downgrade in that it exchanges raw strength, flexibility, speed and power for a sleeker form-factor, a wider range for its integrated communications suite, a longer-lasting power supply, and the advanced 'expression flaps' that have been mounted on the platform's head.

Much of the internal memory and processing power has been simplified as well; while previously most platforms could easily serve hundreds (and in some cases even thousands of geth programs), this new platform only has room for seven.

When questioned about the reasoning for the new platform, the Geth Construction Collective stated that the new platform was created with conservation of resources in mind, while at the same time enabling Geth to explore the galaxy on their own or in small groups. They added that previous iterations were primarily built with military purposes in mind, and that this iteration was meant for demilitarized, diplomatic uses.

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RalaZarun
Huh. I figured they'd come out with something like this eventually, but I wasn't sure when.

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RememberTheBlitz
Thoughts for what the inevitable nickname of "Basic Bipedal Platform for Geth, Iteration 732" will be? I'm going to guess "Flapper."


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Rocker Launchet Superior Firepower
The fuck are expression flaps? What, do they fan out like those lizards when they get startled or something? Why not just give them color coordinated "Mood lights" or some shit.

Seriously, flaps?
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Teilhard
This one has had some interest in seeing how the design of geth platform types would be altered in response to their new form of individual consciousness. It assumes that this is the first answer to that question, but is curious as to why the geth have drastically reduced their number of programs per platform. Is it not true that the geth still derive benefits from being present in larger numbers, if only by the additional number of idea-sources?

Rocker Launchet wrote:The fuck are expression flaps? What, do they fan out like those lizards when they get startled or something? Why not just give them color coordinated "Mood lights" or some shit.

Seriously, flaps?

It also wonders why you believe your species's forms of non-verbal expression are the only appropriate forms.

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Dyson
Rocker Launchet wrote:The fuck are expression flaps? What, do they fan out like those lizards when they get startled or something? Why not just give them color coordinated "Mood lights" or some shit.

Seriously, flaps?

Flaps are constructed using a lightweight, durable material that requires fewer points of articulation and power consumption than a fully-developed, electronically sensitive "face." Further, they avoid potential confusion between species from "mood light" installation, as separate species do not conform to the same method of impacting neural activity through the broadcast of varying wavelengths of light.

Flaps also avoid confusing hanar by using a means of expression that does not interfere with language comprehension.
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Dyson wrote: Flaps are constructed using a lightweight, durable material that requires fewer points of articulation and power consumption than a fully-developed, electronically sensitive "face." Further, they avoid potential confusion between species from "mood light" installation, as separate species do not conform to the same method of impacting neural activity through the broadcast of varying wavelengths of light.

Flaps also avoid confusing hanar by using a means of expression that does not interfere with language comprehension.

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Dyson wrote: Flaps are constructed using a lightweight, durable material that requires fewer points of articulation and power consumption than a fully-developed, electronically sensitive "face."

Well, that and I figured you wanted to avoid the uncanny valley. That, and the PR disaster that would result from your wearing Quarianform faces while we're still stuck in our suits. ;) I wouldn't be offended, but it wouldn't go over well.

Teilhard wrote:This one has had some interest in seeing how the design of geth platform types would be altered in response to their new form of individual consciousness. It assumes that this is the first answer to that question, but is curious as to why the geth have drastically reduced their number of programs per platform. Is it not true that the geth still derive benefits from being present in larger numbers, if only by the additional number of idea-sources?

Perhaps Dyson can add something here, but looking at the published diagrams, I think that the communications suite could compensate for that? If this is meant to be "cheap and polite" for developed areas with good extranet connections, they wouldn't have to do all their thinking locally, and if you were doing exploration, they'd probably pack the processors into either a ship-body or something like a demilitarized Prime unit.
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Pariah
I can't wait to see what insidious purpose this new development will bring.
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hierarchy_​dad
It'll probably steal your soul and make it look more adorable, Pariah.

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Dyson wrote:Flaps also avoid confusing hanar by using a means of expression that does not interfere with language comprehension.

Most thoughtful! This one is pleased to see such efforts at facilitating effective cross-species communication. This one wonders if many of its own kind couldn't learn from the example of the Servants of the People!

This one extends greetings to the other; it has not yet encountered the Servants of the People in person, and is most pleased to observe their presence on the forums! This one offers apology for its boldness, but it is eager to incorporate the perspective of the Servants into its studies. The spiritual and philosophical expression of artificial intelligence is naturally a field in which little literature is available; as such, this one has not had the opportunity to truly consider the implications of the Servant's gradual Enkindlement. This one sometimes receives the impression that the achievement is downplayed by the Primacy, and hopes that the process of integration with organic beings will benefit these ones as much as it will the Servants!

Will the new platforms be operating on the Citadel?

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WavesHaveBroken This one is unsure what to place here. Greetings!
Proof Of Concept wrote:
Teilhard wrote:This one has had some interest in seeing how the design of geth platform types would be altered in response to their new form of individual consciousness. It assumes that this is the first answer to that question, but is curious as to why the geth have drastically reduced their number of programs per platform. Is it not true that the geth still derive benefits from being present in larger numbers, if only by the additional number of idea-sources?

Perhaps Dyson can add something here, but looking at the published diagrams, I think that the communications suite could compensate for that? If this is meant to be "cheap and polite" for developed areas with good extranet connections, they wouldn't have to do all their thinking locally, and if you were doing exploration, they'd probably pack the processors into either a ship-body or something like a demilitarized Prime unit.

Perhaps the reduction in available programs per platform is intended to facilitate greater insight and discovery at the interpersonal level? Perhaps the Servants see the advantage in limiting the extent and capabilities of their consciousness so as to better comprehend the more limiting perspective of their organic neighbours? Indeed, this one wonders if the Servants are not simply being polite by disguising the true nature of the soul behind a public face, in a manner somewhat comparable to these ones' custom. The reduction may be philosophically motivated rather than practical, and as such demonstrate an intriguing effort among the Servants to explore the potentialities of an integrated galaxy!

This one must read more extensively on the Servants' history...

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It may be just a translation issue, but I think they prefer just Geth. If your translator automatically turns it into its kelish meaning, just add it as proper noun in its dictionary.

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Pariah
WavesHaveBroken wrote:[quote=Proof Of Concept wrote:]
This one must read more extensively on the Servants' history...

Make sure to pay special attention to the parts where they murdered over 90% of my people's population and that time sided with a Reaper and attacked a bunch of colonies before then trying to take the Citadel.

Anyway, I feel like a broken recorder. So feel free to go back to praising this development.
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Private Eyes
I'm more concerned about how they're going to implement this. Is it going to be a... an industry standard? Is every geth going to need to pony up for a new body? Or is it on a volunteer basis? Because if I was a flashlight, I'd keep the powerful, better, more useful older model and throw those fancy new flaps to the curb.

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Henosis
I'm more concerned about how they're going to implement this. Is it going to be a... an industry standard? Is every geth going to need to pony up for a new body? Or is it on a volunteer basis? Because if I was a flashlight, I'd keep the powerful, better, more useful older model and throw those fancy new flaps to the curb.

Mobile platforms have always been distributed on basis of need and utility. A single program operating in a server has no need of a mobile platform, while sensitive military operations may be carried out by a collective of geth operating within a single 248 (commonly known as "prime") unit.

Geth are hosted in servers, with only a small number operating on mobile platforms at epany given time. This is unlikely to change even with the introduction of a new mobile unit.
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One Bored Tech Haunting the Alliance Tower since 2180.
Oh so geth are collectivists in addition to be genocidal crazy ass freak machines. Awesome.
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RememberTheBlitz
One Bored Tech wrote:Oh so geth are collectivists in addition to be genocidal crazy ass freak machines. Awesome.

How did you not know this?


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RememberTheBlitz wrote:
One Bored Tech wrote:Oh so geth are collectivists in addition to be genocidal crazy ass freak machines. Awesome.

How did you not know this?
Supposedly they were individuals now. Not that it matters to me either way really.
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Dyson
Pariah wrote:I can't wait to see what insidious purpose this new development will bring.
Pariah wrote:Make sure to pay special attention to the parts where they murdered over 90% of my people's population and that time sided with a Reaper and attacked a bunch of colonies before then trying to take the Citadel.

Creator-Pariah should note that ballistics tests for the BPPG732 yielded significantly poorer results in comparison to BPPG248 in cases of gunfire, heavy munitions, incandescence and electrical overload. In addition, many of BPPG732's points of articulation have been significantly reduced in motor strength, reducing potential for physical strength by a significant percentage.

Conversely, the significant reduction in programs installed in the BPPG732 has a result of dramatically lowering the number of geth killed per platform's destruction; in the unforeseen circumstance in which both models are employed in a combat scenario, it is still tactically sound to target the older models first.

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