Racial Stereotypes: Origin and Accuracy

This program is not utilizing humor. This program is detailing the lack of tactical utility of the personal protection/apparel employed by subset: asari commando units. Said protection/apparel is inferior in application and use as compared to similar subsets of alternate organic sovereign entities. Said apparel is linked to perceptions of asari sexualization as pertaining to Republic's overall military deficiency.

This program is not utilizing humor.

Localized context indicates that User: Taleeze is attempting to utilize humor.

On the objective scale of Relative Comedy as quantified by the Pan-Mannovaian College of the Performing Arts [where ten is equivalent to The Twelve Declarations as written by Valisatus Xaitha; where one is equivalent to sustained viewing of DWICKCAST Episode Thirty One: FECAL MATTERS] the statement made by User: Taleeze met four out of the five criterion necessary to receive a classification of three point oh oh one.

Much appreciated, darling.


If it looks like leather, if it moves like leather, if it feels like leather, if it's called 'commando leathers', then you can see my confusion when people tell me it isn't some sort of leather gimp suit. And a nano-fibre composite suit or whatever you say they are is all well and good, but do you know what's also rather handy for special forces?

FUCKING HARDSUITS.

I can agree with you on that principle and yet I still fail to see the part where it becomes funny.

While heavier equipment is generally not favoured by biotic specialists and the huntress uniform is certainly preferable to that... bodyglove you see humans in sometimes, the fact that the best medium plated armour solution fitted to asari dimensions on the market was developed and produced by a turian firm is a disgrace.

And you are perfectly capable of saying as such without embarrassing the both of us and insulting their service.

I will, in fact, embarrass you and insult their service as much as I damn well please. Because of all the races in the galaxy who possess a functioning military, the all-girl space-sluts decide to dress theirs in body-hugging faux-leather. And I have no idea how any 'body glove' produced by humans could be more hilariously and inappropriately sexualized than the asari commando uniform.

Then we have nothing more to discuss on the subject. Pardon me, while I excuse myself from your furious exercise. I sincerly wish you well, and hope that the next person you feel need to shout at over the extranet on the subject is somehow receptive to your very unique way of stating the point, and against all odds is actually someone with the influence to improve the lot of our fighting women.

Celeste, the good doc is right about one thing, outsourcing our body armor needs to the turians is a disgrace. I know that Serrice fucking Council prides itself on the custom armor that they make, but if they're not willing to make a reliable AND affordable armor for our republic militias, let alone our commando cadres, well, another republic or private consortium will need to step up. Because the 'catsuits' are on the way out, and they're not as versatile as some of the current gen human or turian models.

... what are you even trying to say here? I've love nothing more than to beat you senseless with your own arguments as usual, but for the life of me I can't work out what this is supposed to mean.

It means I'm conceding you the point. I'm giving it to you. I have no interest in defending the design of huntress leathers, or those who advocated for them or made them the standard article, just the dignity of those who died in them for a cause they believed in. If can't accept me doing one and not the other, I can just drop it.

This is me dropping it. You win.

Hey, you girls are actually aware that there is no commando 'uniform', right?

They wear all kinds of light suits and armored hardsuits, whatever is deemed best. I never used a hardsuit, was umcomfortable and the protection was not worth the additional weight and limitations. Others did, to each their own. Just keep it at least a little bit close to truth.

You obviously haven't tried the really good armors Dirinia, the human Alliance recon armor is quite light, and versatile considering it's modular design. I also heard good things about that cerbie Aias...no, Ajax design. Point is, the 'leathers' have had their day, we asari need to make an armor that can surpass the two I mentioned without outsourcing to the cuttlebones. As for no 'official' commando uniform, you're right in regards to the cadres, but not the militias each settlement has. A reliable, standardized armor would make maintenance and logistics that much easier.

Alystae, you might want to double check on my name again. And please, just call me Taleeze!

That's right, I didn't look for anything fancy, I chose from what was readily available.
but my bondmate, who's a commando, has a closet full of various suits and armors. From how I understood, the individual units indeed coordinate that among themselves since they also cover their own maintenance.
But to look for new developments now and especially after the war, doesn't seem like a bad idea. I see no reason why it would not be happening.

Of course. It's less a matter of 'uniform' and more the matter of what is considered adequate and acknowledged as 'standard issue.'

Oh so they can choose.

And they all chose catsuits.

My my that does make this whole thing seem infinitely better. And besides, who needs hardsuits when you can dodge hyper velocity rounds and hard vacuum.

...I'm fairly certain you just gave every single logistics officer reading this a collective aneurysm.

I would hate to be an asari quartermaster then. Standard issue exists for a reason.

Also I've never gotten the sacrificing protection for agility thing. A good suit has multiple advantages-shielding, ceramic plates and ballistic weave are just the start. You've got environmental protection, monitors that enable the rest of the platoon to know how you're doing, hell the Alliance even utilizes the helmet cameras a lot. Besides, agility or not, you can't dodge bullets or shrapnel.

EDIT: wait, you guys don't have uniforms? Whaaaaat. You must look like a bunch of civvies at parade.

From what I know, there are quasi-standards, established by most common use. Just no rulebook telling you exactly what to wear. I mean, most commandos are around long enough to know for themselves what fits them best.
When I joined, the quartermistress was only offering three variants of suits or light armor, so that was kind of what that unit was using as their standard.

Also, I don't think they parade much. But my mate has two suits she only wears for formal duties, I think at least all of her unit have one similar outfit, but yeah, each unit looks a bit distinctive. Don't you people have similar signs of unit recognition?

Wait, you don't parade? How the fuck do you do a roll call or give out orders then? Unless your commandos have been around long enough to know what to do without orders?

Unless you think I mean prancing around for civvies or whatever-hell no. Parade is where a company gets together for roll call and to dispense orders, that kinda thing-we do it every morning and I know, since I gotta call out all the names. It's kinda important. The yanks call it formation.

We've got unit patches and the like, but you can always tell an Alliance Marine in uniform or in hardsuit. Uniformity helps with cohesion and is part of the mindset, you know? It also helps stop your own guys from shooting you. And wearing hardsuits everywhere sucks-that's why we've got like three different uniforms for different occasions.

As a quartermaster, I really feel for your logistics guys. Keeping up with one set of standard issue stuff sucks, let alone everyone having different kit. Quartermasters I know have nightmares about that sort of thing.

You just figuring that out Red???? An asari quartermaster is THE most thankless job in the militias, never mind the commando cadres. A hundred or so years ago I was an assistant to the chief supply clerk of the Nartin militia, small time. But the demands that commandos put on our requisition orders were exorbitant, several sets of armor, high end weapons with very specific cleaning and repair supplies. Every time a commando neared our little corner, we assistants knew we were in for it, especially if the prima donna, sorry, operative needed a specific muzzle attatchment only manufactured in Armali. Needless to say, a bit more standard issue would streamline the requisition process, along with saving money and resources.

I think (excepting the practical aspects Ms. T'Naron mentioned, which I've heard of from many sources before, and yes, it's an added difficulty) this is the result of a difference in philosophies. While there are certainly core tenets and, of course, a massive body of collective institutional knowledge drawn on by all asari units, my understanding has always been that 'uniformity' isn't especially prized. Cooperation, of course, trusting one's comrades implicitly, all working towards common goals, even ones held more important than one's own life - but from the huntresses I've known, I've gotten the impression that individual diversity is valued, and fostered, far more than the uniformity employed in other militaries.

It may help to think of it this way: all militaries employ specialists - drivers, pilots, spotters, snipers, scouts, sappers (lots of esses involved) and so forth; even a rifleman, or whatever the particular term for regular infantry, is a specialist, optimised for their role in the larger structure. A Speaker, a captain, once explained it to me as every member of her ship's company being a specialist in being herself - bringing her own perspective, abilities, methods, and preferences, to the company. Every huntress is unique - allow her to be unique and she'll be exactly what her sisters need of her, impose conformity on her and she'll never realise her potential.

Makes life demanding for the logistics coordinators and their equivalents, but it's all part of how we work together; you can see the same in many callings, not just the military.

(I imagine every ship, and ground unit, has its own ways, but among that captain's company, the purpose of these parade or formation exercises you mentioned was basically filled by conversation during mealtimes.)

Actually that is what the translator told me, sorry. But Daia explained it pretty well. My mate commands formalized duties as well, even for 'civvies'. There is a guard duty for the Rings Of Alune, which falls to her regiment. The two commandos in the amphitheater wear the aforementioned similar suits for that. She does not do it herself anymore but she sees to it that it's representable.

I have seen these parades that you mean then, while on Cyone. Humans and turians did them, and I see that it makes sense with larger groups. But we had our semi circle get-togethers for the day's duties and briefings. It was more formalized during the bootcamp phase, when we didn't know each other so well but loosened up in the field. I kind of happened automatically after a while. At least I know my mate, who's a Speaker does not read every name each morning. Why should she, since nobody would be missing without informing her or her adjutant.

A uniform external appearance or clothing does not mean much to a commando. I guess we know one when we see one, even buck naked in the bathhouse. The uniformity is more on the inside. It's hard to explain, I think it comes with the long years of studying and the long service times.

A beautiful, lovely, poetic idea right up until it collides with reality with all the force and grace of an obese elcor hitting pavement.

All that uniformity and suppression of a soldier's inner flower child isn't without purpose. Soldiers are expected, are required in fact, to be able to fulfill additional functions in their squads and military command overall in the event of casualties and external events. So, say, a human marine or turian legionary is capable of serving as a rifleman, forward scout, or driver, while specialists, in turn, can still lay down fire.

Whereas if your all of two huntresses who chose to devote themselves to accurately hitting things with a rifle get picked off by snipers your cadre is up shit creek with neither a paddle nor antidiarrheals.

Then God help the huntress who missed lunch the day the cadre got their op orders.

...This actually begs the question of how the hell do you even coordinate?

Because every single asari is such a saintly, virginal paragon of virtue who would never ever go away without leave or otherwise neglect their duties be it through malice or mistake.

Really I think the problem can be summed up with this comment of yours.

The huntress cadre model you are describing does not work on anything approaching the macro scale.

Christ, this at least explains why you outsource so many maidens to merc bands and PMC's. Somebody's got to teach them how to act with something approaching decorum in a military setting and it's evidently not going to be the Republics.

You cannot be serious.

I refuse to believe you are serious.

Your argument is seriously "but it's what they feel inside that makes them special".