Excerpts: Consensus Martial Paradigms [Hypothetical] 1/450 Subset: Usvendlikei

Subtitle: Enforced Progressive Extinction re: Known/Extant Organic Sovereign Entities

Primary strategic failing re: Old Machine's operation in conflict: Evening War laid in allowing opposing organic/synthetic factional groups sufficient opportunity to conglomerate into a single functional entity. Any/all scenarios concerning enforced progressive extinction events must address said strategic failing.

Proposed addendum: exploitation of superior Consensus cognitive processing abilities; exploitation of superior Consensus communicative capabilities; exploitation of synthetic nondependency upon continuous resupply of critical materials re: individual naval/nonnaval assets to launch simultaneous decapitating/divisive strikes against Citadel Council administrated space/Non Citadel Council administrated space.

Requisites: Retrofit of currently operational dreadnought/heavy cruiser class ships to specifications allowing for deployment of Type Visilis/Type Sellantch Joint Mining/Manufacturing Seed Stations. Deployment of no less than seven hundred and fifty Type Visilis/Type Sellantch Joint Mining/Manufacturing Seed Stations around Tier IV Planets; extrasolar bodies; interstellar dark zones. No less than six hundred of said Stations at/within one year of Stage V development.

Minimum of seven point three Galactic Standard years allocated to preparation.

Minimum of twenty seven point seven six seven nine two one oh one percent of current HomeSphere composite processing power allocated to preparation.

First Phase:

Twin economic/military strikes against Omega Station; Citadel Station. Consensus programs located on said stations exploit interconnected [exponentially augmented] processing capabilities to interfere with normal trading. Mass purchases. Mass sell offs. Faulty information. Adjusted share prices.

Deployment of clandestine Consensus fleets through Pangaea Expanse to Omega Nebula [twenty percent]; to Local Cluster via Exodus Cluster [eighty percent]. Destroy/Compromise comm buoys/observer ships in relay systems. Transport of no less than four Class III container ships, individual ships each carrying industrial metals; raw components; purified omnigel; Ten thousand compacted Consensus light/heavy infantry platforms stored in superstructure between habitable shape and ablative armor to Citadel Station. To Omega Station. Container ships to dock, remain docked as materials are transported until Protectorate/Terminus mandated market freeze/close of market day.

Deploy infantry platforms. Fabrication of raw materials to: weaponry; support platforms.

Priority Targets: Presidium: Citadel Security Headquarters; Diplomatic Offices; Personal Residences of Councilors/Senior Representative Diplomats; Station Control.

Priority Targets: Ward Citadel Security Outposts; Ward Primary/Secondary Docks; Offices/Processing Centers all Platinum List Telecommunications Incorporated Entities.

Priority Targets: Omega Core: Afterlife

Priority Targets: Omega Districts: District Environmental Controls; Personal residences of all Tier I individuals.

Begin purge of Citadel Station; Omega Station. Deployment of clandestine fleets to Local Cluster; Omega Nebula. Final termination of all Creator-remnants. Mobilization of public fleets to reinforce naval/infantry assets in Omega Nebula [ten percent]; to defend critical Veil-based structures [fifty percent]; to Annos Basin [forty percent].

Sustained engagement with Systems Alliance Navy.

Sustained bombardment of Earth/Primary Alliance Colonies.

Sustained bombardment of Sur'kesh/Primary Union Colonies.

Consolidation.

Second Phase:

Confederacy/Greater Terminus/Tertiary Entities: Provide Consensus designed weaponry; armor; technology; martial support to factions willing to ally. Deploy and direct to Annos Basin/against hostile extra-Citadel Space factions.

Krogan Clans: Deployment of krogan/reproductive-specific viral weaponry/destruction of spaceborne assets.

Hanar Illuminated Primacy: Infiltration of Consensus platforms aboard refugee ships fleeing Citadel engagement. Corruption of orbital grids Primary/Secondary/Tertiary. Sustained bombardment.

Turian Hierarchy/Volus Protectorate/Hierarchy Clients: Extend state-wide offer to component worlds/species re: conditional surrender [Terms: mutual nonaggression; resupply; Consensus defense; possibility of Consensus military technology]. Engage Hierarchy fleets within Trebia System subsequent to refusal of Primarch Victus. Sustained bombardment of Menae. Deploy Type Cadaza Macroscale Platforms on Menae.

Destabilize lunar body.

Reissue state-wide offer. Advance to planet of next largest population density.

Repeat.

Asari Republics: Deployment of asari/biotic-specific biochemical weaponry. Ten percent of total fleet dedicated to low contact/high intensity strikes against Republic core/affiliated worlds [Thessia; Illium; et. al]

Elcor Courts of Dekuuna: Sustained orbital bombardment.

Third Phase:

Progressive termination of extant colony worlds past species's genetic recombiation barrier. Sterilization of Consensus-allied factions.

Martial Paradigm classified to be of minimal relevance to possible future Consensus military action given: improbable ratio of hostile to allied factions; improbable resilience to non-extinction based cessation of hostilities. Distribution permitted.

React.

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Think about what you're saying here.


specifically this part

you should get laid.

This one right here.

You sit in the corner and think this over, young lady. Don't you dare come out of that corner until you have an answer that isn't made of stupid.

No platform exists in our databases or inventories that is capable of the act user Sugar has suggested. The Consensus sees no need to change the situation.

That's not very reassuring to me.

stop getting trolled by a flashlight you idiots

You do realize that they can rebuild faster than any of us can, right?

There are two ways to take this. The first, the optimist way, is that our good friend Maniple here is just collating security concerns and framing them in a shocking way to perhaps spur important people into action. This is of course the least likely of the two, but I may as well get it out on the table before someone goes 'b-but lady matriarch you're s-so mean ;~;'.

The geth are stronger than us. Stronger than any of us. The sheer fact that Maniple felt comfortable enough to share this plan with us tells us more than the plan itself. The geth have the quarians wrapped around their little robo-fingers tighter than the hanar have the drell, much less the turians have the volus. If at any point the geth wanted to say "hey we're still a little salty about that time you bothered us in Bugfuck Nowhere and destroyed our ultimate project and killed a shitload of programs" they could easily do it and bam no more quarians. We cannot and should not assume that the geth have automatically become creatures of free love and peace simply because some kind of Reaperfuckery has made them individuals and they helped us in the war.

However. The fact that they have not attacked yet, that they've thus far helped rebuild Rannoch, is an encouraging sign. For lack of a better term, their collective character has been rather thoroughly tested by the war and its aftermath. Tides, they could have just fucked off to the galactic rim and waited for the Reapers to finish pureéing us, but they fought beside a race that's done nothing but collectively bend them over a table to help us.

So let's remember that while things could be better vis a vis the geth, they could also be a fuckload worse.

And what race was so, so mean to the poor little geth?

The quarians. Did I stutter?

Forgive me. I must have forgotten all the hardships the poor geth endured at my people's hands after they murdered our children and destroyed my entire culture.

Poor. Little. Geth

The quarians literally created a slave race and then tried to exterminate it when the possibility that it might be thinking for itself arose. Then, just before a war with the Reapers, when your admirals all knew that a greater threat was coming, you instead attacked the geth while they were literally just off in Bugfuck Nowhere doing their own thing. They could have just finished their Dyson Sphere and been happy doing whatever, but the quarians decided to attack again despite how well that worked 300 years ago, and drove them into the Reaper's arms out of sheer desperation. Then they continued the war despite Reapers literally being in the Milky Way, and needed a third-party to mediate so that they didn't blow themselves the fuck up chasing their sad dreams.

I was also actually alive at the time when this whole clusterfuck first started, but that's really beside the point. You are a sad, bitter little woman whom, for an exile that despises her people, seems to buy into their little fiction worryingly sincerely.

So VIs are a slave race now? I assume this is what you mean by the word "literally" as in, the quarians deliberately, and intentionally created the geth to be a sapient "slave race" which is not true.

And even then you could make an argument that the geth were never truly sapient or sentient creatures to begin with.


Which was of course Council Law and the geth showed very well why that law exists.


It was stupid (though not for the reasons you are bitching about) but where, oh where, did the geth ever give any inclination of being peaceful. Just two years previous they had attacked the fucking Citadel with a Reaper I have no idea how you can even type this shit when every single person in the galaxy thought of the geth as a threat. They only started backpedaling later.


And again. How is anyone supposed to know the geth were "friendly", especially after 300 years of self-imposed isolation, the only time they even bothered to leave the Veil to butcher colonies and invade the Citadel?


Boo hoo


Age does not equate wisdom. As you've shown many, many times.


Says the asari that does nothing but bitch about her people in every single thread. Hypocrite much?

VIs aren't a slave race, no. But when you create VIs with the capacity to learn and adapt, to form a complex neural network and share data between each other, and increase exponentially in thinking power as more are created, and let that just simmer with absolutely nobody watching it? Yeah, either you were going for an artificial slave race or the quarians of three centuries ago were, uh... not very competent.


As I stated above, perhaps they should have thought about Council Law before they created a giant flashing neon "I WANT AN AI HERE" structure then ignored it for a couple of decades. I will, however, agree that the geth should have known to keep noncombatant casualties out of the war. Sapience comes with rights and responsibilities, and the runtimes responsible should be brought to justice. Two wrongs do not make a right either way, however. The wrongful retaliation does not excuse the wrongful situation.


Perhaps the fact that they were perfectly happy sitting around in the ass-end of nowhere for 300 years, not bothering anyone. As they have made abundantly clear, the attack on the Citadel was caused by a subset of geth that had grown to worship the Reapers as gods. A subset that outright tried to spy on and mechanically indoctrinate the rest of the geth. This is a thing that happened and the geth have not even remotely tried to hide it.


Do you even know what a Dyson Sphere is? It's an energy-capturing superstructure built to harness the entire energy output of a star. The geth were in the process of uploading every last one of their runtimes into it. With that much energy and that many runtimes all networked, it would've basically been the synthetic version of a post-singularity society. As in, in all likelihood, the geth would have done precisely jack shit to the rest of the galaxy and just been happy doing their own little thing. And if the geth really were the robot boogeymen poised to take over the galaxy that the quarians thought, why did they go after them alone and without Council backing when the rest of the galaxy was busy fighting synthetics a few kilometres taller?


Indeed, very tragic.


On this we agree. The only thing age certainly brings is experience. And perspective in certain cases. This is one of those cases.


I think you've missed the meaning of 'hypocrite'. I would be a hypocrite if I did nothing but bitch about my people in every since thread (which I do very well thank you) but also defended them for some of their absolute worst and most bone-headed move. Which is what you seem to be doing.

fixed that for you

You again assume that this was done immediately. It was not. Subtle changes and alterations to their programmings over the years of their existence led to their little malfunction. Something not easy to track until the machine is rambling about souls to its owner.


You'd have to bring the entire species to trial.


They shot down anyone that intruded their space. Without any warnings I might add. So friendly and misunderstood! But I guess we can blame that on the "heretics" too. Every other questionable thing the geth do seems to get filed under that along with "the quarians were mean to them!"


And they could have just as easily decided that the squishy organics need to be gotten rid of. Which was probably how the Reapers got their start.


The Council? The Council?

hahaha

I can't believe that you just proposed that the Migrant Fleet seek aid from the Council! You really are an idiot!

hahaha


I disagree.


"I'm not a hypocrite. I'm just hypocritical in a different way!"

Malfunction? Rambling? These are living, thinking beings with rights and responsibilities you're talking about.


Everyone has to start somewhere. And trying is better than nothing at all.


The geth have had an immensely shitty history with organics that makes many of their actions understandable. Not justified. Understandable. And by trying to reduce all my arguments to 'the quarians were meanypants' you betray an alarmingly immature rhetoric.


So rather than the possibility of hostile action, you decided to make it certain. Get your retaliation in first and all that. Bravo.


You know exactly what I mean. And simply calling me an idiot doesn't help much. The Migrant Fleet attacked the geth, outnumbered though not outgunned, and wasted valuable resources and assets on either side of the conflict that could have been used to make the Reaper war that much less bloody. There is also the possibility that if the entirety of C-Space tells you an idea is bad, maybe you should rethink going ahead and doing it anyway by exploiting Treaty of Fairxen loopholes.


Fair enough. I'll leave age out of this.


That's... still not what I said. At all. I am critical of my species and my government but I don't then turn around and defend some of their worst qualities.

EDIT:


True. The geth should have approached the galactic community to explain themselves and seek peace the moment they heard of this.

Luckily, since we have multiple geth in this thread, we can just ask them.

It's like arguing with a wall that can only regurgitate the same talking points over and over and over.


No. They aren't.


hahaha


I suppose it really is understandable to side with the Reapers and help murder millions of innocents.


Because again, the geth gave so much indication that they are friendly creatures. Especially when they had just attacked the Citadel with a Reaper two years previous.


And this is why you like "perspective" on the matter you aren't a quarian. Even I, the evil exile, know that going to the Council would be pointless. Because the council has not, or has never, given a shit about the quarians or Migrant Fleet ever since they left them for dead during the Geth War.


And you assume again that I defend them attacking Rannoch during the Reaper Invasion (or for anything post-geth war). I do not. I am pointing out the flaws with every single idiot that loves to backpedal and criticize my ancestors because the syntheics they themselves feared and wanted to get rid of for over 300 years can do a good song and dance about nonsense about "heretics".

Don't fight among yourselves! That's what it wants!

Who cares what it wants

Glass houses, darling.


If I may refer to records of the Morning War's first spark. Ahem. 'Does this unit have a soul?'

If you're self-aware enough to ask the question, then you probably do.


Your skepticism has been noted and filed away in my "I don't give a fuck" drawer.


Here's an idea that might have occurred to you.

Don't strap guns to civillian ships full of said civillians and then send them into a war against a superior force.


This is essentially what your argument boils down to. "You're just not a quarian, man. You just don't get me, man." Here is an idea. You dont create a network of highly advanced synthetic intelligences designed to grow smarter and more adaptable the more you construct then go "oh but please Council sirs it was an accident". You don't exterminate a whole burgeoning race because you're afraid that they might take umbrage with the fact that you wanted to create really, really smart worker drones. You don't throw your children out into the galaxy alone and unprepared to do your bidding and expose them to hardship and prejudice just to harden their little minds into the "nobody cares about us quarians they just don't get me" mentality. You don't violate the Treaty of Fairxen by strapping dreadnaught-tier weaponry to civillian-grade ships. You don't use the opportunity of a galaxy-spanning war starting right then to go settle a grudge with a massively superior force the galactic community all told you to stay away from. You don't arm civillian ships and fill them with civillians and send your entire race of only a couple million into a pitched battle with a race that vastly outnumbers and outguns you. And you then do not get to play the "oh woe is me I am just so oppressed" card when you have to get bailed out by a human.

Every single idiot may 'backpedal' like mad on the geth issue. The geth certainly aren't perfect. But at least they're willing to put the past behind them. For the past three hundred fucking years the quarians have been navel-gazing and staring resolutely backwards and asserting that the galaxy just doesn't get them, man, when someone takes issue with this.

If you are made of wires, metal, and plastic. You probably aren't.


And this is one of many reasons I hate what my people have become. Thank you.

Though that had nothing to do with any point I was making about geth hostilities prior to the Reaper version but okay.


And here is where you don't get me. Most of this, the Pilgrimages, the attack on the Geth during the Reaper Invasion using civilians, wandering the galaxy like idiots. Those are the reasons I hate and revile what my people have become. But go ahead and keep assuming things asari.