[Alliance]First elections in the System Alliance since the reaper war to be held in Athens

[Alliance]First elections in the System Alliance since the reaper war to be held in Athens
Krishna Tram – Alliance News Network

System Alliance spokesperson Tam Percin made an official declaration yesterday evening, announcing that test elections would be held in Athens in one month.

“The Alliance is well aware that many of its citizens are concerned about the five years plan never actually ending, and want their voting power back. This is the first step toward that goal. In three months, the citizens of Athens will choose their mayor.”

The choice of city of Athens, Greece, is not random, since human democracy is believed to have originated there.
“We will try a new unified voting system. If it works, more elections will be organized so people can choose their mayors, then as the System Alliance passes the reign of powers, prefects and presidents will be chosen before the five years mark.”

The declaration was met with approval, although critics said that it was nothing more than a delaying technique. Mr Percin went on to describe the system.

“To implement this, and make the best of this opportunity to start from scratch, we have benefited from the expertise of Asari consultants. The asari people have lived for thousands of years in an e-democracy, and have kept updating their system all along. Their input will be vital in areas such as security and fluidity of use. Voting is the most important thing a citizen can do, so we can only accept the best technologies.”

This declaration was met with mixed feelings. Many people expressed shock at the idea that aliens were consulted in remodeling the core systems of democracy. Isolationist parties have threatened to protest what they qualify as “selling out the heart of Humanity to the alien agenda”.
At press time three political parties had registered for the race.

Yes how dare earth deign to have multiple nations and cultures with their own methods of deciding upon their governing bodies, the shame.
What part of: Not Their Mandate do you have an issue with?

Looks like humanity has found a way to split the difference, rather impressive. It's not ideal granted. But it does defuse some of the seperatist/nationalist anger, giving SATAE more wiggle room and for a military junta, that is a good thing, one less thing for the civilans to bitch about, unless the perception is reality is the norm for all Alliance personnel.

this is literally the worst idea of all time

congratulations, satae

you are officially dumber than i actually gave you credit for

EDIT: I love how the only "mixed" reception that the article reports is the ever-loved strawman of THOSE DERN ALIENS and not how comprehensively fucked this idea is.

"Hey guys, I'm just going to insert a witty comment with no context or data to back it up by some extremely obscure author you've probably never heard of."

Adjusts Varren-bone rimmed glasses.

"Anyway, now that I'm done contributing literally nothing to this discussion, I'll make a one worded sarcastic statement and then leave.

Ciao"

Congratulations on being literally one of the last people to have the credibility to complain about failing to contribute anything at all to an argument.

Who cares about culture and diversity and nationalism, right?


Yes, I hate democracy very very much and have no legitimate concerns about SATAE superseding its jurisdiction in this manner or how this system is a minefield both in practical and political terms.

Fuck democracy. I'll just go smash the datapad with all the stuff from my political party on it right now.

"Calypso" leader of "Corsairs" is not, in the least bit, pretentious and hypocritical for grabbing at what is apparently (?) faux intellectualism.

Political theory has existed for ages, fool. I would not be the first, nor the last, nor would I be a liar if I said that many forms of democracy - including definitively the one used by the Systems Alliance - simply do not work. Not even the Athenian democracy they seem so proud of worked. With the first elections, came the first rigged elections. You truly believe it's different now? Easier to rig and easier to avoid the consequences.

Democracy.
My.
Ass.

Ahhhh. It always warms my heart to see citizens openly and freely discussing the many facets and factors involved with building a successful and lasting democracy. It reminds me why I choose to become involved with politics here on the Citadel...

...I hope any of you that happen to live in District 69B in Tayseri Ward bring that same interest in democracy out on election day next year, to ensure I keep on fighting for you!

Oh my come off it. You're Hierarchy. Your home government isn't a democracy either.

Well I mean you are descended from convicts and killers so that's really just to be expected.

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Well, it may be true that the Hierarchy is not a democracy per say, but that doesn't mean I don't respect and admire the institution of democracy. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered getting involved in the democratic process on this station, and put my success in the hands of the voters.

And I do believe by the logic you're using, my friend, with anyone who was ever born in a non-democratic society not being able to appreciate or understand democracy, then I believe democracy among human-kind would have died out years and years ago. Though, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, on this station at least.

You're getting involved because you were interested in an office on the Citadel first and foremost and Citadel politics adheres to the republican system in part by it's very nature. It's not like you had much of a choice.

Kindly stop manhandling my logic, I don't appreciate it and it's becoming intensely uncomfortable for everyone involved. What I was actually saying was that it's, frankly, somewhat hysterical for someone to promote unqualified democracy uber alles (and to the exclusion of all other systems) when ones native planet that they have no professed issues with is most emphatically not.

I believe the relevant word is: hypocritical.

Whereas you're still trying to escape the shadow of being descended from the West's boogeymen.

The scars, augs and glowing green eyes really sell that.

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Well, that's your opinion, and you are certainly welcome to it.

...Whether or not anyone will actually listen to it and think it's worth anything is up for debate, but you are welcome to it none the less.

You know if your feelings are hurt you're more than welcome to hold discourse with us mere mortals and say they were. Frankly, we'd probably respect you more for that instead of, say, reverting to this weird blend of passive aggressive and ominous.

I have difficulties getting what you are referring to. Whose mandate do you mean, the politicians' or the voters' or something else?

My comment wasn’t directed at you.

Actually, Nat, how are elections handled on Eden Prime? I know there are tensions up there, but do you people have a working political process or is there martial law? And how do you handle alien… well, non-human residents?

I read up a bit on the history of the martian colony and it’s hard to believe that at one point there was no voting rights for resident non-humans! It is merely decades but for me this seems like from another space-time. Of course every permanent resident has a vote, not just humans. But the next colonial council will only be elected in two years, obviously there also was an emergency replacement vote last year for the vacant seats. But Mars is pretty small in comparison to everything, was even smaller back then. That’s easier to handle for SATAE, they are not very present in every day life really. Only double the paperwork when you have official business like applying for residency.

The Systems Alliance Transitional Administration on Earth. SATAE. The people ostensibly overseeing this debacle and who we've been talking about for the

entirety of the thread more or less.
...You do know what having a military government means right? She's under martial law. Earth's under martial law. The entirety of Alliance controlled space is under de facto martial law.

Or did you just not notice all those posters calling him "Dictator Hackett"?

Can't imagine that the Director-General of Mars was thrilled at your little demonstration.

I was talking about democracy and elections, don't know about you.

What demonstration? I am only on Mars for less than half a year now. You're kind of an extranet riddle, right?

I was talking about the people administrating said democracy and elections and why that wasn't a good thing. Why.

Why is this difficult to grasp?
General "your" given you are a citizen of Mars as well; plus said demonstration being that Mars is also under martial law with an appointed governor from the Systems Alliance and any officials voted into office have no real power and really serve no other purpose save as a vehicle for some political dick-waving.

Which I can't imagine that said Director-General would appreciate given that it's basically a passive aggressive way of telling them to fuck off.

I woke up and this still exists.

Frankly, I have no idea how they managed to so thoroughly manage to introduce a compromise that effectively fails to please everyone on both sides. No one who wanted elections wanted this unified, standardized, one-size-fits-all bullshit and no one who didn't want elections wanted elections.

Well you did say 'some of you seem quite eager to abandon democracy' when you don't have to be an evul anti-democracy separatist to have a problem with this development.


Eden Prime, like the rest of the Systems Alliance, is under martial law. Everyone is under martial law, no exceptions. The colonies are not different to Earth. That said, a lot of day to day stuff is done by Eden Primeans who've been in place since before the war and now just send their reports to someone else. The police force still handles a lot of law-keeping.

Aliens are treated under Alliance law, as they are in all colonies. Alliance law supersedes colony law as it always has. Non-resident and non-citizen aliens are treated in much the same manner as a human who is not an alliance citizen. Whether or not alien residents can vote in Eden Primean elections is kinda a moot point at this time.


Why is mars having elections?

(And is it really so hard to believe aliens couldn't vote? Our first contact was violent and caused a lot of xenophobic backlash. As we got used to other sentients, that changed.)