[Politics] AFS Calls for Council Seat Removal

AFS Calls for Council Seat Removal

The past week has seen a sharp increase in protests across Citadel Space as the Political Action Committee “Accountability For Sur’kesh” has questioned the legitimacy of the salarian Council membership.

“A Council member’s duty is to protect Citadel Space as a whole,” explained Takus Tran, event coordinator for AFS. “Where was the Union during the Reaper War? Where was it during the single most important threat the galaxy has ever faced? Nowhere, because Allied forces wouldn’t pander to their little games.”

The tone was similar at the Presidium protest, with over 400 members of various races calling for the salarians’ removal from the Council.

“[The salarians] can’t even feel our pain,” argued guest speaker Opheus Lonad (H-Tier 14, Palaven). “Out of everyone in the galaxy, they’re the only ones with an intact homeworld, the only ones with a fully functioning industry. They should have been spearheading that war, but they could barely send a token resistance.”

While many protesters stayed “on-message” throughout the event, several members had their own to make. One salarian protester, speaking on condition of anonymity, stated that he was there as a reminder of his own species’ dissent from his government.

“What I want is for our political caste to take a hard look at themselves, and spur my people into limiting our Dalatrasses’ power,” he said.

The protests were largely ignored by those uninvolved, though the Salarian political body has expressed mild contempt for the movement. Dalatrass Mendon (Miscigle, Jaeto) in particular noted covert actions taken throughout the war and afterward a statement condemning the protests.

“This is an outrage,” she said. “If you think we just sat there during the war and did nothing, you are grossly mistaken...We kept the galactic economy running, and overtly supported our allies as best we could. We were conducting thousands of simultaneous operations to give us an edge on the Reapers, and the worst simply came to worst.”

Mendon declined to comment on the Union’s wartime operations, citing operational secrecy, though she further noted the salarians' involvement in galactic reconstruction.

“The Council’s duties are not solely based in waging war,” she stated.

Further protests are scheduled for this week.

Troll troll is troll. Congratulations on becoming completely irrelevant in your one-sentence comments.

Yes we get that, and nobody asked the Salarians to win the war all by themselves, but you still have a massive fleet, and your politics held it back! While all their allies were dying everywhere! This is not being bad at war, this is betrayal.


I know many humans are remarkably ethno-centrics, but for the record I'm not saying Salarians should take a human government or anything. But I think the definition of fucking up is the same for all species, and not assisting your allies as best you can in a galatic extinction event is fucking up. Maybe it just shows the current dalatress needs to be replaced by others, I don't know, but the Union didn't hold true during the war, and I think the salarians should wonder why.

About closure it's two fold. The stupid part of our brain want the bad guys punished. The smart part of our brain wants to make sure it won't happen again. That if the reapers go bad again, the Union won't pull back everything and wish us luck from afar again.

They made mistakes, sure. But they weren't sitting things out completely. I'd say that there will be changes coming soon in salarian politics, because a new generation of leaders is growing there, and they see what's been done and what people are expecting, and how C-Space regards them. Let them make up for their mistakes instead of just taking the chance away from them.

Because clearly milling about pretending to stand for something, demanding that the salarians be stripped of any position of authority in the galaxy is going to do anything to improve our chances.

That's great.

So, I cite something that is happening right now and you cite something that happened two thousand years ago.

Cool.

Pretty much this. Sometimes it's hard not to generalize, even though it's the dalatrasses' fault that a lot of the Union did almost nothing in the war, comparatively speaking. There's a lot of salarians that stood on the front lines with the rest of us, and I'll be the first to salute them for it.

That said, I don't have much more sympathy to give than that. Fact of the matter is that the salarians generally got off easy while everyone else was neck-deep in rubble and their dead, and that doesn't really inspire a rational response when their leaders didn't seem to give a shit during the war.

But the salarian Council seat represents the dalatrasses, and while kicking the salarians out of the Council would do more harm than anything, if people want to roast their leaders for what they did, I'm all for it.

Mendon, though. Yeah, the salarians kept the economy running, and sure, waging war isn't the only responsibility of a Council race, as they're showing now. Like it was all part of the plan, right from when the Reapers hit Earth. And if that's true, then they went through the war figuring there was a long-term game to play, where the Reapers would be beaten, and there would be something of a galaxy left to muck around with. And I think I can speak for a lot of people when I say that for anyone who was fighting the Reapers right up to the end, calling that possibility 'remote' at the time would be understating it.

So yeah, she might be right, but she can still fuck right off on that. We can appreciate their decisions now, but facing extinction, I'd have preferred to have more soldiers at my back than a clean-up crew on the side-lines, waiting for the dust to settle. Call me bitter.

You know, I agree that salarians have a bad track record of just seizing onto whatever seems a good idea at the time and failing to think of the long-term consequences.

That's exactly the same thing that these "kick the salarians off the council" protestors are doing now!

It's the exact same thing - thinking you're so smart that you can stir things up and it will just work out and not blow up in your face. The salarians, it's because they think they can win before they start thanks to all that accumulated intelligence, so they just stick their hand in and start meddling, and the protestors it's because they think righteous anger makes everything done in its name reasonable. It isn't!

Salarian Union does not equal every single salarian being in the galaxy, but to you people it probably doesn't matter if you sling shit at a Lystheni or a Sur'Keshian.

It was Union that was at fault, not the collective species.

What people are not paying attention is that there was a Prothean beacon sitting on Thessia for spirits know how-long as an asari exclusive artifact! Who the hell knows what advances it held and could have been utilized? It could have given us a headstart of centuries against Reapers!

If the Reapers had moved against Sur'Kesh and ignored Earth, can anyone say that the Alliance wouldn't have done the same?

Nobody wants to participate in a fight they don't think they have to.

You all need to get a goddamn grip. The Salarians have done good by the Krogan and good by the rest of you. There's dozens of runts running around with the name 'Mordin' for a reason.

You forgot how they neutered us in the first place you dumb fuck

The salarian military doctrine is that they prefer to end a war, or at least attain full knowledge of the enemy, before needing to resort to a campaign, right? If so, I believe their "inaction" was not so much selfishness so much as merely paralyzed by confusion because their doctrine didn't present any meaningful response when the Reapers arrived.

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Don't you think I know that? The fact of the matter is we're no longer neutered, and the good ones have tried to even the score.
It's up to us to make sure we don't go out taking worlds and starting another rebellion for room and power.

Find it ironic we have people complaining that the frogs didn't pull their weight during the war when; The lizards likely wouldn't have left Tuchanka until we gave them the cure, and when the buckets left us all hanging to go commit suicide by geth.

Just saying, maybe you should spare some for them.

This one believes that is because the point of discussion in this thread is the salarian people and not that of the krogan or quarians and because those races (along with the asari) eventually started to publicly (to use the other's words) "pull their own weight". While the salarians (this one admits to not knowing much of the salarian people) possibly worked in more covert manners, as is fitting of their military doctrine.

I question your rhetorical consistency.

That thing is too smart for its own good.

Not that I'm complaining here...

I resent that.

And while the Salarian's losing their council seat would be bad for a number of reasons, they should at least be putting in the lion's share of the recovery effort now that they're pretty much the only faction in the entire galaxy that's at pre-war strength right now. Also, if they're so bad at fighting overt wars, why was there little to no logistical support? Perhaps if you don't have the strategy to fight the Reapers, the least they could have done is give some weapons to those who did.

Resent it all you like. The asari weren't exactly sprinting to help everyone else either.

EDIT: Oh, I'm sorry, the Asari Republics.