What is it about asari?

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Mr_Sandman wrote:Yes of course, I mean what on earth could be offensive or unpalatable about the idea that the asari perpetually mind molest everyone they talk to until we develop sexual Stockholm syndrome, or that one can casually describe an individual's personal preferences are overwritten by said physic fondling and find nothing wrong with it.
Well it's not like we choose our sexual preferences anyway. And it's not whatever asari do is a love potion. Just because you suddenly can be attracted to members of the species mean that you're falling in love with them all. Just see real life.

Mr_Sandman wrote:You assume there is an elcor in existence that would reciprocate.

I certainly don't. I can't imagine I'd be more attractive to an elcor that they would be to me. That's my whole point really. Yet they find asari attractive, and they barely look more elcor than I do.

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Mr_​Sandman
4Eyes4TheWin wrote:Well it's not like we choose our sexual preferences anyway. And it's not whatever asari do is a love potion. Just because you suddenly can be attracted to members of the species mean that you're falling in love with them all. Just see real life.
A famous batarian xenobiologist said that the asari emitted a low, subconscious version of that mind melding thing to people they met, and that it works by taking advantage on our only real common point : Sentience. The brain structure of almost all sentient species have some common points.
So when you first interact asaris, according to that theory they unconsciously interact with your brain and make them desirable, although as Mr Aleksanders pointed out, it does not always work.
Once the brain is slightly remapped to decide asaris are hot, it still reacts to images of them for instance.
You have an exceedingly flexible definition of the word "suddenly". In that, on the one hand, you seem to be trying to sell the idea that mental roofies are virtually identical to organic, mutual affection; but on the other that argument never worked for any of those fratboys or controlling boyfriends before so, frankly, I'm not entirely sure where you're going with this.

Unless you're attempting to convince the board that you are a deviant with increasingly poor boundary issues in which case:

well done.

Mr_Sandman wrote:I certainly don't. I can't imagine I'd be more attractive to an elcor that they would be to me. That's my whole point really. Yet they find asari attractive, and they barely look more elcor than I do.
So obviously the only acceptable answer is that the asari are issuing nonstop subliminal messages to everyone they come across. Because the fact that asari are "exotic", long lived, not bound by many particularly strong cultural inhibitions regarding sexuality, have a massive media presence, or that they're capable of becoming pregnant off virtually anything certainly has nothing to do with it.

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Mr_Sandman wrote:you seem to be trying to sell the idea that mental roofies are virtually identical to organic, mutual affection; but on the other that argument never worked for any of those fratboys or controlling boyfriends before so, frankly, I'm not entirely sure where you're going with this.
The phenomenon, whatever it is, is done unconsciously, unlike handing out the drugs you're describing. And my translator tells me that the "roofies" you mentioned leave their victim virtually incapacitated. While whatever make most of us find asari attractive do not. You can choose not to date someone.

Mr_Sandman wrote:Because the fact that asari are "exotic", long lived, not bound by many particularly strong cultural inhibitions regarding sexuality, have a massive media presence, or that they're capable of becoming pregnant off virtually anything certainly has nothing to do with it.

It goes hand in hand with the phenomenon certainly, but I can't imagine that to be nearly enough for pachyderms to find asaroids romantically and/or sexually attractive or vice versa.

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4Eyes4TheWin wrote:The phenomenon, whatever it is, is done unconsciously, unlike handing out the drugs you're describing. And my translator tells me that the "roofies" you mentioned leave their victim virtually incapacitated. While whatever make most of us find asari attractive do not. You can choose not to date someone.
Your entire argument hinges on the idea that asari mentally recondition other organics to find them sexually attractive regardless of their preferences in the matter.

You are trying to peddle the idea of species wide date rape of the subconscious as being nigh indistinguishable both ethically and practically from genuine attraction.

Not only is this idea, to borrow a rather crude phrase, fucked up on virtually every conceivable level it is also a few shades off from near total retardation. Emblematic of a negative intelligence as it were. That is, your thesis is so fundamentally wrong that we are all now stupider for having read it and, indeed, the galaxy is now probably worse off for it having been brought into existence.

Mr_Sandman wrote:It goes hand in hand with the phenomenon certainly, but I can't imagine that to be nearly enough for pachyderms to find asaroids romantically and/or sexually attractive or vice versa.
Firstly I imagine there are a great many elcor who will take some measure of offense at being wholly conflated with certain terrestrial mammals. Secondly I'm going to rephrase my argument in the literal simplest way that I can; both because of the recent mental trauma I have sustained in this thread and because I harbor some rather severe reservations that you could grasp it any other way.

Asari culture encourages asari to enter relationships with non asari.

Asari culture places negligible stigma on more open expressions of sexuality.

Asari media presence greatly reduces general cultural backlash against relationships with asari.

There is minimal risk of unwanted pregnancy in a relationship with an asari.

Feels good + they actively try to do it + society says it's okay + can't get her pregnant unless she wants to = why not

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4Eyes4TheWin Executive at Slaves4Us, rising Terminus Company. We sell slaves, we do low cost rebuilding, and provide many sorts of entertainment. Ask me a brochure today!
I'm not sure why you take it so personally, but I think we should let the matter rest as it seems to upsets you greatly.
I'll just indicate however that the word I used means for me a body type, like humanoid, and have no intended connection to earth animals.

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4Eyes4TheWin wrote:I'm not sure why you take it so personally, but I think we should let the matter rest as it seems to upsets you greatly.
Slaver you just spend a solid third of a thread attempting to argue that "no really asari brainwashing people to be attracted to them is a thing and completely alright". The moral high ground really doesn't suit you.

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4Eyes4TheWin wrote:
Mr_Sandman wrote:Because the fact that asari are "exotic", long lived, not bound by many particularly strong cultural inhibitions regarding sexuality, have a massive media presence, or that they're capable of becoming pregnant off virtually anything certainly has nothing to do with it.
It goes hand in hand with the phenomenon certainly, but I can't imagine that to be nearly enough for pachyderms to find asaroids romantically and/or sexually attractive or vice versa.
I can't directly speak to the elcor point of view (I mean, I could, having shared it via melding, but that's anecdotal evidence, even if I have anecdoted a lot more than most), but if you want proof that 'vice versa' certainly is the case, tune into the live feed Bliss will be running of the Sereuun Starblazers' one and only show this year, and pay particular attention to the audience: I've never seen anyone at a Starblazers show need any motivation other than the sight of the boys on stage to get mightily worked up. ;)

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I miss the old 'notes' thread the Virtual Lounge used to have; if you want to continue this OOC, perhaps we could make a new one? Briefly though, yep, I think the same basic principles would work for non-humanoids as well. Not so easily, so a smaller percentage of the population, but enough to count - the combination of them being unusual, yet socially acceptable, making them a highly visible minority. 'Talking elephant' sounds far-fetched, but if elephants did talk, not just as a novelty but always had, if it was normal to us from the day that we were born that we were sharing the world with this other shape of person, every bit as sapient as us. ...okay, we'd probably have gone to war ages ago. But hypothetically. Emotional bonds would sometimes form given proximity, sexuality's fluid enough to go along for the ride sooner or later, and if it's not stigmatised (even if it were, frankly), I think it'd happen often enough to not be bizarre. (Yeah, that we me trying to be brief. I got it down to one paragraph...)
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Mr_Sandman wrote: Feels good + they actively try to do it + society says it's okay + can't get her pregnant unless she wants to = why not

i think there's really not much magic involved here, Bintar. dunno, but i just can see the above equation at work each day. it's not that they'd have to be around or near you, it's people coming to see them in droves on their own.

there are people out there who have never been even remotely close to asari and fantasize about them. unless there's hidden secret messages in all the holo programs, how would that work if they'd have to fondle your brain for that?

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Why have you neglected to message me with details?

And as far as asari in general are concerned...I have no idea. They have a very beautiful quality to them that is alluring. Maybe there are pheromones involved? I have no idea, but they are a versatile species. It gives them opportunities the rest of us lack.
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