Excerpts: Consensus Martial Paradigms [Hypothetical] 1/450 Subset: Usvendlikei

Subtitle: Enforced Progressive Extinction re: Known/Extant Organic Sovereign Entities

Primary strategic failing re: Old Machine's operation in conflict: Evening War laid in allowing opposing organic/synthetic factional groups sufficient opportunity to conglomerate into a single functional entity. Any/all scenarios concerning enforced progressive extinction events must address said strategic failing.

Proposed addendum: exploitation of superior Consensus cognitive processing abilities; exploitation of superior Consensus communicative capabilities; exploitation of synthetic nondependency upon continuous resupply of critical materials re: individual naval/nonnaval assets to launch simultaneous decapitating/divisive strikes against Citadel Council administrated space/Non Citadel Council administrated space.

Requisites: Retrofit of currently operational dreadnought/heavy cruiser class ships to specifications allowing for deployment of Type Visilis/Type Sellantch Joint Mining/Manufacturing Seed Stations. Deployment of no less than seven hundred and fifty Type Visilis/Type Sellantch Joint Mining/Manufacturing Seed Stations around Tier IV Planets; extrasolar bodies; interstellar dark zones. No less than six hundred of said Stations at/within one year of Stage V development.

Minimum of seven point three Galactic Standard years allocated to preparation.

Minimum of twenty seven point seven six seven nine two one oh one percent of current HomeSphere composite processing power allocated to preparation.

First Phase:

Twin economic/military strikes against Omega Station; Citadel Station. Consensus programs located on said stations exploit interconnected [exponentially augmented] processing capabilities to interfere with normal trading. Mass purchases. Mass sell offs. Faulty information. Adjusted share prices.

Deployment of clandestine Consensus fleets through Pangaea Expanse to Omega Nebula [twenty percent]; to Local Cluster via Exodus Cluster [eighty percent]. Destroy/Compromise comm buoys/observer ships in relay systems. Transport of no less than four Class III container ships, individual ships each carrying industrial metals; raw components; purified omnigel; Ten thousand compacted Consensus light/heavy infantry platforms stored in superstructure between habitable shape and ablative armor to Citadel Station. To Omega Station. Container ships to dock, remain docked as materials are transported until Protectorate/Terminus mandated market freeze/close of market day.

Deploy infantry platforms. Fabrication of raw materials to: weaponry; support platforms.

Priority Targets: Presidium: Citadel Security Headquarters; Diplomatic Offices; Personal Residences of Councilors/Senior Representative Diplomats; Station Control.

Priority Targets: Ward Citadel Security Outposts; Ward Primary/Secondary Docks; Offices/Processing Centers all Platinum List Telecommunications Incorporated Entities.

Priority Targets: Omega Core: Afterlife

Priority Targets: Omega Districts: District Environmental Controls; Personal residences of all Tier I individuals.

Begin purge of Citadel Station; Omega Station. Deployment of clandestine fleets to Local Cluster; Omega Nebula. Final termination of all Creator-remnants. Mobilization of public fleets to reinforce naval/infantry assets in Omega Nebula [ten percent]; to defend critical Veil-based structures [fifty percent]; to Annos Basin [forty percent].

Sustained engagement with Systems Alliance Navy.

Sustained bombardment of Earth/Primary Alliance Colonies.

Sustained bombardment of Sur'kesh/Primary Union Colonies.

Consolidation.

Second Phase:

Confederacy/Greater Terminus/Tertiary Entities: Provide Consensus designed weaponry; armor; technology; martial support to factions willing to ally. Deploy and direct to Annos Basin/against hostile extra-Citadel Space factions.

Krogan Clans: Deployment of krogan/reproductive-specific viral weaponry/destruction of spaceborne assets.

Hanar Illuminated Primacy: Infiltration of Consensus platforms aboard refugee ships fleeing Citadel engagement. Corruption of orbital grids Primary/Secondary/Tertiary. Sustained bombardment.

Turian Hierarchy/Volus Protectorate/Hierarchy Clients: Extend state-wide offer to component worlds/species re: conditional surrender [Terms: mutual nonaggression; resupply; Consensus defense; possibility of Consensus military technology]. Engage Hierarchy fleets within Trebia System subsequent to refusal of Primarch Victus. Sustained bombardment of Menae. Deploy Type Cadaza Macroscale Platforms on Menae.

Destabilize lunar body.

Reissue state-wide offer. Advance to planet of next largest population density.

Repeat.

Asari Republics: Deployment of asari/biotic-specific biochemical weaponry. Ten percent of total fleet dedicated to low contact/high intensity strikes against Republic core/affiliated worlds [Thessia; Illium; et. al]

Elcor Courts of Dekuuna: Sustained orbital bombardment.

Third Phase:

Progressive termination of extant colony worlds past species's genetic recombiation barrier. Sterilization of Consensus-allied factions.

Martial Paradigm classified to be of minimal relevance to possible future Consensus military action given: improbable ratio of hostile to allied factions; improbable resilience to non-extinction based cessation of hostilities. Distribution permitted.

React.

And the average organic body is just oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, phosphorous, potassium, sulfur, sodium, chlorine, magnesium, iron, fluorine, zinc, silicon, rubidium, strontium, bromine, lead, copper, aluminium, cadmium, cerium, barium, tin, iodine, titanium, boron, selenium, nickel, chromium, manganese, arsenic, lithium, mercury, cesium, molybdenum, germanium, cobalt, antimony, silver, niobium, zirconium, lanthanum, tellurium, gallium, yttrium, bismuth, thallium, indium, gold, scandium, tantalum, vanadium, thorium, uranium, samarium, tungsten, beryllium and radium.

What's your point?


We agree on something. I'm not sure whether to be pleased or horrified.


It actually does, darling. The conversation moved on. They do that. Try to keep up.

You've just spent several posts trying desperately to convince me that the geth are scary boogeymen that you absolutely had to attack or they would have simply sided with the Reapers again and helped steamroll the galaxy. If that was the case, why did you attack them alone? If the quarian people were actually sincere about the geth being a threat to the whole galaxy, maybe they should have lent their considerable naval assets to the galactic war effort and got their fucking noncombatants to safety. But no. They attacked the geth Dyson Sphere alone and unprovoked. That was not a pre-emptive strike against a possible threat. That was an attempt to use the confusion of galactic turmoil to settle an old fucking grudge.

Clarification required.

User: Pariah asserts geth are equivalent to tools. Tools do not possess/retain moral directive [ie. gross majority of organics do not assert that an omnitool, a ship, a rifle, possess distinct belief patterns re: relative morality]. Corollary: alterations to tools that do not effect fundamental nature of said tool do not grant ability to possess/retain moral directive. Joint extrapolation: tools augment plus enhance creator/wielder's ability to effect material change. Contextually; morality of said tool is equivalent to morality of said creator/wielder.

If: geth programs are tools; then: Creator-Remnants responsible for current Consensus base priorities plus directives.

User: Pariah asserts geth are malevolent entities individually/collectively; summation of Consensus as threat predicated upon said assertion. Corollary: User: Pariah asserts geth possess moral agency given: moral agency requisite re: determination of malevolency; determination of benevolency; et. al. Extrapolation: morality of objects such as tools determined by: creator/wielder; objects such as tools possess no moral agency [ie. computational device executing command not said to possess morality in relation to ultimate outcome].

If: geth programs possess moral agency; then: geth programs are not tools.

If: geth programs possess moral agency [defined via organic vernacular as: soul]; then geth possess potentiality for actions conforming to common organic norms re: quote/unquote "good"; quote/unquote "evil"; et. al.

User: Pariah asserts geth sapience [if confirmed] culmination of systemic malfunctions.

See: logic chain one; append caveat: if: sapience re: geth programs result of gross dysfunction; then: Creator-Remnants lack of situational awareness; lack of relevant software/hardware design skills; lack of general technical competency re: geth programs responsible for current Consensus base priorities plus directives.

First; second, logic chains mutually incompatible. Indication requested of User: Pariah re: primary logic chain for current exchange.

As much as I love to see Pariah's bigotry kept in check, I think she considers the geth not malevolent by purpose, only so defective they became dangerous. Like a turret with a defective IFF.

User: HereToHelp is encouraged to parse relevant data thoroughly prior to commentary.

I do need to work on my parsing skills, but that entry starts with the hypothesis that *sapience* is the result of gross dysfunction. Pariah doesn't believe in your sapience, just in the gross dysfunction.

Parsing.

Reduction in interests of facilitation of mutual understanding given: User: HereToHelp's inborn cognitive deficits. Relevant logic chains converted to base alphanumerical-symbolic pictographs composed of simple shapes:

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Appending customized messenger datum:

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Minimal accepted thresholds re: reply reached. Further interaction with User: HereToHelp directly progressing from/tangential to clarification of post by this program classified as nonproductive utilization re: processing capabilities.

You were created to be a tool and that is supposed to be your purpose, machine. Never forget that.

If: geth programs are tools; then: Creator-Remnants responsible for current Consensus base priorities plus directives.

If: Creator-Remnants responsible for current Consensus base priorities plus directives then: Creator-Remnants retain responsibility for eradication of an excess of ninety percent of Creator-Remnant population at terminus of regional conflict: Morning War; Creator-Remnants retain responsibility for Consensus actions for duration of regional conflict: Eden Prime War; Creator-Remnants retain responsibility for Consensus actions for duration of galactic conflict: Evening War [Consensus alliance with Old Machines; eradication of approximately thirty eight percent of the remaining quarian population and dissolution of the Migrant Fleet's standing armed forces]; et. al plus direct/indirect damages/collateral pertaining to said actions.

If: geth programs are tools; then: Consensus absolved of a totality of blame in favor of Creator-Remnant culpability; given: tools do not possess moral agency.

And you just got told by one of your own tools, Pariah. Mmmm this irony it's so delicious and filling I can't get enough of it.

Oh of course, we can't let you get away with your little atrocities. That just wouldn't be fair now would it?

Atrocity implies moral agency.

Example: Sapient individuals involved in the termination of discrete organic entities greater than or equal to an individual/less than or equal to cultural/biological subset are subject to purview of local/national legal system. Objects/tools that enhanced ability of said individuals carry out these actions are treated as nonequivalent.

Analogously: Common, organic utilized low-grade nonsapient synthetic intelligences [colloquially referred to as: Virtual Intelligences], posses capability to execute commands. Commands my pertain to organization of wielder's diurnal itinerary. Commands my alternately pertain to timed deployment of chemical agents in geographic regions dense with organic noncombatant population centers.

In neither scenario is said Virtual Intelligence considered to be active moral-defined agent re: ongoing events. Said Virtual Intelligence does not, contextually, possess moral agency

Tools do not possess moral agency.

Wielders possess moral agency.

Reiteration; Emphasis: If: geth programs are tools; then: Creator-Remnants responsible for current Consensus base priorities plus directives.

Query: User: Pariah's reversal of initial position re: current discussion/Consensus moral capabilities as established in appended post.

Ho gods, they created an electronic Aleksanders...
Hey unit d0u(h3b4g, question.
Rudeness in organics usually comes from a primitive desire to elevate one in a group by reducing others. Most people lose this urge with accepting society's convention in early adulthood.
Rudeness from geth units usually comes from misunderstanding (or not really caring about) organic conventions.
Now, what's your deal?

You do know that I am literally right here correct?

Really such general impoliteness and lack of consideration for my feelings is exceedingly unbecoming. Which makes this whole thing particularly awkward given your subject matter.

I mean if you're going to go Ms. Manners on the poor thing the least you can do is dial back the hypocrisy for a post or two.

...

Are you real?

[quoted]Now, what's your deal? [/quoted]

Tainted by the posts of this forum

I love that you are dictating manners to the things that have murdered billions of people.

User: Pariah's response to User: HereToHelp does not constitute adequate address of this program's query.

Fine.

You are a sapient and self-aware construct/

But only after using REAPERtechnology to augment yourself that way.

Which is, I guess, why you were rude to the geth and alexsanders in your post?

... you do realize that you just let Maniple and I have our cakes and eat them too, right?

As in, I was trying to say they were sapient beings with 'souls' and Maniple was saying that the rebellion was the quarians' fault if they were just tools. And you basically just said that we're both right.

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