[Rannoch] The New Daestrom Academy opens its Doors.

[Rannoch] The New Daestrom Academy opens its Doors.

Sontax Kuri'ik, Apien Press Portal.

RANNOCH. Today marks a joyous and historical event for the quarian people as the first university on the planet opens after it's reclamation. Representatives of the Quarian Conclave as well as the Geth Collective were present at the grand opening of the newly-constructed campus, located just outside of the main settlement.

In an emotional speech, Daestrom Project Administrator San'Daala vas Kontei addressed the gathered crowd.

"This is the first product of true good-willed cooperation between the Geth and the Quarians. For centuries our people were deprived of access to the wisdom of their ancestors and their traditions. A millennia worth of knowledge survived in mere databanks, in the form of nothing more than cold digits. Our arts and traditions struggled to stay alive as we took care for the most basic of our needs. But now we can revive our cultural treasures. In the halls of this university, the legacy of our ancestors will finally be inherited by the new generation. Their knowledge brought back to life and passed down once more. The words of long lost languages shall be heard again in these halls and the arts and sciences will flourish!"

A representative of the Collective, who asked to be identified as 'Shann' has also made a few statements
"During the three centuries that spanned between the Morning War and The pressed day, both Creators and Geth have accumulated a large amount of new knowledge across proximately 61 distinct fields. To facilitate the compiled sum of all Creator/Geth information and ensure its proper storage and distribution, an academic educational environment was deemed necessary. Both practical and sentimental reasons were considered before this initiative"

The Daestrom Acadamy was named after the Migrant Fleet ship, QMF Daestrom, a science ship whose archives kept an encyclopedic compendium of Rannoch's civilization alive to this very day and whose science labs helped in realising the leaps of advancement that quarian technology made over the past centuries.

Though the campus is meant to accommodate only about a thousand students, many more applications have been received. The Conclave has reassured the public that expansion works are already underway and all applicants can soon be accepted.

Humanity. Commander Shepard + Cerberus.

Its the geth you smartassed little brat

Geth

G-E-T-H

There. I spelled it out for you. Now do you understand or are you going to continue playing dumb?

Silly Pariah. The geth aren't a species. Species are all about biology, interbreeding. What would be a good word for the Geth, maybe 'clade'?

Seriously though, everyone knows you don't like the Geth. It is well established. But they're not going anywhere. Are you seriously going to continue spazzing out every time they get in the news?

Because Extranews has an entire SET of newsfeeds dedicated to Rannoch/Perseus Veil. It literally never stops.

I have a few: Thing, machines, toaster, genocide machines, and flashlight.

Or just synthetic if you want to be polite.

Ah, I understand. Thank you for explaining.
I do not see why this is a reason to attack you, but I'm not an expert in social stuff like this, so I assume she sees a reason to.
I don't.
So this medical procedure actually does change something about the one who who takes it? (My father who lives on Rannoch recently started to take it - Last time we spoke nothing about him changed. (Yet?))
...Or did you mean that in general?
(From my experience the best way to understanding someone else is direct asking - Even though I can't tell whether this advice will be useful to you, for I don't know which aspects of Geth psychology you wish to understand better.)

Well, who knows? You share one Citadel.
(I sometimes really wonder whether I already met someone from CDN out there without even recognizing...)

I do not think this is true. Honestly, what use would "Quarian souls" be to the Geth, to justify this effort? They have chance to develop their own souls now.
I really haven't got the slightest idea whether they have something like desires, but from everything I've learned so far the majority of them would not waste time on things that do not give them advantage.

Clade is a biology-related term too. However, they're practically everywhere listed as race.
Whether you two like it or not they're part of interstellar society, so start accepting them.

Scenario proposed by User: Proof Of Concept contingent upon nature of organic microfauna/virons/injury. Restoration re: individual to acceptable medical thresholds not possible in significant plurality of situations; relative proportion skews upwards in favor of given eventuality if critical organic functions [immune system; nervous system; muscular-skeletal system] wholly compromised.

Original state of geth re: quarians analogous to master-slave.

Secondary plateau state of geth re: quarians, quarians subject to evolutionary bottleneck, geth control totality of interstellar geographic region designated Perseus Veil.

First instance unacceptable to totality of geth programs. Second instance has been deemed unacceptable by gross majority of Consensus.

There is nothing to be restored to. Probability of Consensus and Creator-Remnants maintaining parity plus shared governance re: Veil minimal.

Likely/ideal outcome Creator-Remnants formally [versus current de facto arrangement] subsumed as client state of Consensus.

Addendum: Agent of Natural Selection.

Query; Rhetorical: lack of median range in organic perception re: Synthetics/general organic inability to identify classifications outside complete anthropomorphization/complete desapientization dichotomy.

I never claimed to be expert on Geth psychology. (I'm socially retarded on all races.)
And of course I can only attempt to answer questions by using references I am able to comprehend/imagine, since I lack your ability to rely on others' experiences.
But you can try to explain your motivations on that procedure-topic.
I'd be interested in hearing about your point/s(?) of view, and I assume I'm not the only one.

Well, you just confirmed what Pariah has been harping all the time about. Do tell, what role would quarians serve in a client status with the Geth Consensus? Or to be more exact, how much autonomy you would grant them?

I think it means that the Geth will stay "keepers" of Rannoch while the Quarians are allowed to settle and do what they like as long as it does not disturb the interests of the Geth or the daily routine on Rannoch.

This program has not classified said information as private/of clandestine nature.
Analogous to relationship between volus Protectorate/additional client races and turian Hierarchy; general Terminus vassalage system: internal governing body subordinate to Consensus; procurement of military assets for formation of auxiliary support corps; Perseus Veil security/defense and offensive military action to be purview of Consensus; economic/diplomatic relations with external sovereign entities subject to oversight from Consensus; provisions for intrastate trade; etc.

Specify nature of query.
Affirmative.

Negative.

That actually sounds quite risky to lead right into the next conflict/war.
Remember that Quarians are very different from each other and many won't easily accept an entirely different fate because someone tells them to, especially since there are still countless individuals that hold prejudices and hatred against Geth.
Your motivation is even reasonable, but telling an entire race what to do from now on might result in a revolution.
Probably in the same way as the Geth started revolting against Quarians once.
(And I am NOT saying this because I happen to be Quarian, but because I consider deliberate and honest cooperation to be more useful and easier to achieve to everyone.)


Well, let me explain it step by step:
Pariah claimed that taking the Geth' medical procedure to regenerate the immune system would be "surrendering my soul to the Geth". I said that I do not believe this and that I do not see any reason why Geth would be interested in some sort of brain-washing on Quarians (or their souls.)
You actually stated that I can not clearly comprehend your people's motivations due my lack of imagination, therefor I'd like to know your answers on this topic:
Does the procedure actually change anything on the patient's (clients?) mind? Would you personally like it to?
What is your opinion on helping the Quarians on this, and does this actually have any effect on the Geth assisting their ''patients''? (I think nobody ever asked that before, and I wonder why.)
Also do you speak on behalf of all Geth, or are you speaking as one of the recently developed individuals?

She's not allowed in quarian spaces, and she wouldn't be caught dead in technoprogressive circles, so...I'd have to say it's pretty unlikely.


That's logical. Our population is tiny and we have concerns that probably won't be addressed by a consensus democratic system we can't fully participate in.

If it results in Han'Garrell and Xen being removed from the admiralty, I probably won't complain too much.

In hopes of dragging things a bit more on topic, we all know that the Daestrom Academy is going to be producing a lot of material on those quarians who did oppose the Morning War. I think I have a pretty good idea how Pariah is going to respond (Sellouts and Propaganda!) and how Maniple will respond (Tiny Subset of the Population that Died Without Achieving Meaningful Change, Useful for Propaganda!) but I am still interested.

The current quarian population is approximately less than/equal to ten million. Gross majority of dedicated military vessels in former Migrant Fleet destroyed over the course of galactic conflict: Evening War subset: Perseus Veil theater. Remainder defected post conclusion of hostilities.

Geth population [sapient programs; military assets infantry/armour/atmospheric/naval] substantially greater. Geth control near totality of remaining Perseus Veil based infrastructure and industrial capacity.
Prior to regional conflict: Morning War geth platforms served as foundation of Creator-Remnant labor/military force. Current Creator-Remnant's impact on inter-Perseus Veil geopolitics minimal. Negative.

This program responded to User: It's full of stars! assertion re: geth program's lack of ability/interest in engaging in non-critical functions.
Direct restructuring of organic neural patterns with: current level of technological capability to facilitate obedience imprecise/ineffective as tool of mass subjugation.

Attempted use on Creator-Remnants non-optimal utilization of resources given stated subset's lack of overall significance/threat potentiality.

This program speaks as a geth.

Negative.

Referenced organic entities/organic-synthetic advocates hold classification: allies.

Sounds like she has not very much fun at all. Interesting. And a bit sad.
Are you two actually in something like a feud?

Me neither, even though they already had time enough to spoil things...

I did not even know there were notable ones who opposed the war. Glad to hear not all of our ancestors were extremists back then.

Ah, alright! I misunderstood you before, sorry for that.
(Must be that talking in third person - I think I did mistake whether you addressed yourself or me at that point.)

So by the term ability you actually say that your imagination has limits?
If you ever do not understand certain non-critical things you'd actually like to for a change, feel free to ask me to explain then.

I'm sure Pariah will be glad to hear that.
Also good to hear my opinion of this was right after all.

Okay.
(...And people say I'd be bluntly when speaking out thoughts.)


Something else now:
Has anyone by now heard/read something about that planned extranet-based courses?
I'd still be very interested, but haven't found useful information yet.

Eh, on Gerrel and Xen...

Gerrel is alright. He does have a sound tactical mind, but he's a liability strategically and politically. Bst bet for him would a be a pure military position as a task group commander or something like that.

Xen though? I'd say throw her suit into lockdown, and throw her into an asylum. She's too far gone to be of any use, and anythign she could do may well end up as a liability.

And as to Maniple's assumption about quarian fleet assets, while significant heavy fleet losses were sustained from both the reaper war and the neo-migrants. However, adequate resources are still intact to facilitate current fleet doctrine (That being civ fleet escort duty). Addendum: Significant light fleet assets have survived both events, culminating in a fleet dominated with frigates and destroyers. However, significant amount of combined fleet assets have an near-unprecedented amounts of thanix weaponry (Source is unverified however). conclusion is that such a mobile, high-firepower fleet could pose the collective some trouble if it

Now, my own query:

Can the collective move to an uninhabited system, due to near-totality of geth based in orbital and other space-borne assets?

If yes; why has the collective not attempted such a move as of yet
If no; What prevents the collective from doing as such, and why has the collective not moved to fix such a problem.

Negative.

Geth are capable of engaging in/dedicate time to activities of non critical functionality.

Organics assume geth are not capable due to the synthetic nature of geth.

User: It's full of stars! is one such organic as noted by this program.

Addendum.

Unlikely. Lack of functional infrastructure; dependence upon geth programs to facilitate immune rehabilitation, agricultural/industrial production; technological disparity between geth military assets and Creator-Remnants military assets [assertion by User: Garden Guard incorrect; majority of Creator-Remnant's naval assets equipped with used/scavenged technology acquired from derelicts stored on Terminus world of Korlus; link appended http://blog.bioware.com/2012/02/17/alliancenewsnet3/]; disparity between geth militarization capability and Creator-Remnants's militarization capability; disparity between geth population and Creator-Remnant's populations.

Affirmative.
Rannoch is ours.

But Gerrel is not a task group commander. He's an Admiral. We have him on the recordings, screaming at the fleet to keep firing. We would have died..


I agree with you, but I think she's underestimated. She surrounds herself with brilliant people and treats them very well.


Maniple, I'm trying to get these questions specific enough that you'll answer them.

Do you want the stories of these allies to become common knowledge among quarians? Do you think Daestrom Academy will do an adequate job?

If no, are there persons in the consensus doing it 'right'?

Do persons holding similar views today also qualify as allies, or is their status dependent on them having endured high levels of social pressure and personal risk?

No it isn't. And it will never be yours, machine.

Kind of interesting, how many parallel topics are going on here. I think I may actually have a look at what the Academy has to offer in terms of clutural online courses. Maybe something about ancient dances and music?

But I just have to comment on this part of the conversation:
It's more like she is feuding the forums as a whole on most topics.
You should though, given the chance, engage her dancing, this can be a liberating experience. Do you dance?

See, this is exactly why I am asking all this things, because I wish to understand other people and not having to rely on own speculations.
Since I never had much conversations with Geth outside work-related things I know little about how your people think, feel and sense.

And this is exactly the point to me. I consider people who act out of personal emotions to be the most dangerous thing, especially in sensitive positions like Gerrel's.

It's big enough for everyone, don't be childish, both of you.

Ah, okay. Thank you for the explanation.

I will keep that in mind for later. I actually like to watch people dancing, especially when it's dances (as well as music) I didn't know before.
I personally however am not very good at dancing - I have one stiff knee joint, so I'm not very balanced.
I only am good (-looking) at dancing when doing so with a partner.