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[BREAKING] Slave convoy caught by Republics Navy - Raloi in cargo
via Armali's Voice A slaver convoy headed for the Terminus in the Crescent Nebula was intercepted by elements of the Republics Navy. Led by the cruiser Iluata, the asari task force seized the convoy and escorted them to Athena Nebula for processing. However when marines boarded the slaver vessels to inspect their cargo closer, they were met with surprise as hundreds of slavecollared raloi looked back at them. This surprising turn of events has sparked speculations about Belon's Rift relay having been restored to working order with the other four recently repaired relays, and the 96th Patrol Flotilla that rescued the raloi has been dispatched back to confirm the situation in Crescent Nebula. Presslink News Aggregator: Collecting headlines from across the galaxy. ((Official administration news feed. Please consult the Site Rules for submitting an article.)) |
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Harrad_01 wrote:
Vahruun wrote:Maybe this is just me speaking out of ignorance on the subject, but if the Raloi state already practiced in the slave trade of their own people, then who exactly would need to be bribed?
The Citadel is still sitting there tracking all movement through the relay. It's not the Raloi government you have to bribe, it's the Citadel people running the relay. Probably one of the licensing agents, maybe some monitors, who knows. It should not have happened period. So it is inconceivable that an organization that distributes slaves despite the sharply reduced demand for them might... possibly... I don't know, have some kind of front posed as a legitimate shipping business, of which there are a rather large number? And that there lies a possibility that such a 'totally legitimate business' has had dealings within the system in question on prior occasions, thus vastly reducing the suspicion that accompanies their presence there? That said, I am certain that being caught as this crew has would most certainly have brought those working for said front (both those who believe it is a legitimate business and those who know it is not) under fire. That is, of course, provided that the news of the event has not preceded the movement of law enforcement officials by a significant enough amount of time. Smile! You're in a UMW. |
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You do know what the word "quarantine" means correct?
Here, allow me to place it in a pair sentences for you: "Baelon's Rift is completely quarantined and thus restricted solely to Council forces and associated infrastructure. Turvess itself is also quarantined and travel to the surface is prohibited." One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. -Niccolo Machiavelli |
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Mr_Sandman wrote:You do know what the word "quarantine" means correct?
Here, allow me to place it in a pair sentences for you: "Baelon's Rift is completely quarantined and thus restricted solely to Council forces and associated infrastructure. Turvess itself is also quarantined and travel to the surface is prohibited." Ah. Well. Terribly sorry. I must have missed that particular news article about the system's status. In that case, however, is it not possible that slavers already present on Turvess tried to leave with their cargo? I mean, the idea would cover the points regarding the nigh impossibility of anyone approaching the system or the planet from the outside and would fit the notion of a pre-existing slave trade within the Raloi government. It would also match the notion that many slavers are mentally deficient, especially for trying to continue the trade in what is rumored to be present market conditions. Or perhaps they are not actually extraordinarily short on cerebral matter and are just ignorant of the fact that while slavery is sanctioned in Baelon's Rift, it is not so within the reach of Council forces. Either that, or it is possible they simply believed they had some kind of scan-proof sheeting within their cargo holds' bulkheads, or if such a thing exists, its presence would not raise sufficient suspicion to warrant boarding. Which would still take a remarkable cognitive failure on their part, so never mind. Still, I believe that the capacities of the slavers in the article are not as great as posited by one of the self-proclaimed slavers on this board, since if they were, we would most likely not be having this conversation. If the point I presented in this post is reasonably disputed, then my next guess would be a 'false flag' operation run by the Council forces pulling security, bribed news officials propagating the story, and motions put in place to further draw Baelon's Rift under Council control. But that is just preposterously overcomplicated, and remains as much conjecture as every other explanation posed thus far. Smile! You're in a UMW. |
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Vahruun wrote:Ah. Well. Terribly sorry. I must have missed that particular news article about the system's status. In that case, however, is it not possible that slavers already present on Turvess tried to leave with their cargo? It's been isolated for the better part of two years, and under Council lockdown for several months. This rather precludes any of the requisite actions for a trade of his magnitude such as "lining up buyers" meaning that, if what you're suggesting is true, stranded slavers on the planet's surface came out of hiding with holds full of raloi and no plan beyond "hope for the best". I mean, the idea would cover the points regarding the nigh impossibility of anyone approaching the system or the planet from the outside and would fit the notion of a pre-existing slave trade within the Raloi government. ...the raloi do not have sovereign spaceflight. What are you even talking about.But that is just preposterously overcomplicated, and remains as much conjecture as every other explanation posed thus far. It is, actually, incredibly stupid, baseless, and without any actual or coherent motivation and is so far outside what has been suggested and already disputed in this thread as to attain an entirely new level of terrible. And considering your competition is a slaver who thinks that bribing the entirety of a Council task force is a valid strategy, this is rather impressive. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. -Niccolo Machiavelli |
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Mr_Sandman wrote:It is, actually, incredibly stupid, baseless, and without any actual or coherent motivation and is so far outside what has been suggested and already disputed in this thread as to attain an entirely new level of terrible. And considering your competition is a slaver who thinks that bribing the entirety of a Council task force is a valid strategy, this is rather impressive.
So let me get this straight. Despite the fact that your best guess is "I don't know, it should be impossible." and the valid proofs of logic that you have provided to dispute the suggestions posed by the other participants in this thread, you are saying that my proposal to approach this event from another angle of possibility altogether is, in fact, even more inane than bribing anyone who might have interfered? I can see you making a fine niche for yourself as a critic. All that aside, let us take a moment to sort out the facts surrounding this news posting: 1. There are two levels of quarantine over the Raloi: one on both sides of the Relay and one over Turvess. 2. Council approval is required to legally cross the Relay quarantine. 3. The planetary quarantine is maintained by... the Raloi government, yes? 4. The slaver convoy was intercepted in the Crescent Nebula, not Belon's Rift... by the Asari Republic Navy, of all people. 5. The Navy in question intercepted this convoy, apparently without knowing what was in it. If I am not mistaken, then in order to even attempt this little shipping escapade, the slavers in question would require either Council permission to use the relay or stealth technology that surpasses what anything we know of is capable of. Provided, of course, they were not hiding their ships on the planet's surface since the Reaper War, something which you suggest is unlikely to the point of being a dismissible option. They were caught, which sharply reduces the possibility of the latter. They were caught by forces that are already highly infamous for a deficiency in available personnel, in space that is not that force's jurisdiction thanks to the events of the Reaper War. Do you not agree that there are far too many things wrong with the "facts" involved here to believe that this is a credible case of a legitimate navy catching pirate slavers? Regarding motivation... are you serious? You even have a diatribe regarding how lacking the Republic Military in general has proven over the millenia, something which the members, especially commanders, of have no doubt felt every time they looked at their history as perceived through the eyes of other species. Certainly, if you regard the acting forces here as a part of the Council Military as a whole, there would not seem to be any motivation for staging a successful attack on pirate forces. However, if you isolate the Republic Navy from its colleagues among other species, then what do you get? A small number of hypercompetent military commanders in charge of highly overdeveloped and overpriced ships who had just recently been soundly defeated in terms of protecting their interests by private. Military. Contractors... most likely because said commanders still have to answer to the bureaucracy. Would you not agree that the Republic Armed Forces as a whole are in a state of perhaps desperately needing to save/recover face? But, if that is such an impressively terrible idea, then it must by extension have given you some perspective regarding what you think the correct answer is, no? I mean, if nothing else, process of elimination should be clarifying what you believe to have happened to you. I doubt I am alone in saying that I would much like to see your hypothesis on the table. Smile! You're in a UMW. |
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Vahruun wrote:you are saying that my proposal to approach this event from another angle of possibility altogether is, in fact, even more inane than bribing anyone who might have interfered? Actually, if I recall, the implication I made was that it was stupid beyond all reasonable belief yes.
3. The planetary quarantine is maintained by... the Raloi government, yes? Errrrrr. And here I'm afraid I must dock you points Mr. Frost, the raloi maintain a de jure self imposed quarantine but, seeing as they have adopted staunch isolationist policies, destroyed all their spaceborne communications array, and have no actual ships with which to enforce said quarantine the lock down is, realistically, instituted by the Citadel Fleet.
Provided, of course, they were not hiding their ships on the planet's surface since the Reaper War, something which you suggest is unlikely to the point of being a dismissible option. Considering, again, that the raloi were so desperate to avoid any perception that they were an FTL or even space-capable race that they burned out their entire space program yes, yes it is.
Do you not agree that there are far too many things wrong with the "facts" involved here to believe that this is a credible case of a legitimate navy catching pirate slavers? No I there there are far too many things wrong with the facts for this to even exist, there is, at the very least, a somewhat credible explanation for why there would be Republics ships in system as provided by the Major. As you would know if you read the actual thread.
However, if you isolate the Republic Navy from its colleagues among other species, then what do you get? Except you can't in good faith do this even for the sake of argument my dear Mr. Tryhard because the Citadel Fleet is multispecies.
A small number of hypercompetent military commanders in charge of highly overdeveloped and overpriced ships who had just recently been soundly defeated in terms of protecting their interests by private. Military. Contractors I'm sorry how is this even related to the topic at all. ... most likely because said commanders still have to answer to the bureaucracy. And corporations, on the other hand, are bound by no such petty thing as bureaucracy. Despite the fact that bureaucracy is, in and of itself, not necessarily an evil and corporations are something approaching ninety percent of it.
Would you not agree that the Republic Armed Forces as a whole are in a state of perhaps desperately needing to save/recover face? Yes but "and that's why they went to enormous expense and risk to stage a slave raid under their noses of their own allies and ships they themselves administrate" only follows from that in the last sober braincells of a schizophrenic xenophobe right before he starts downing ethanol shots.Well I Guess This Answers That QuestionI doubt I am alone in saying that I would much like to see your hypothesis on the table. Walking Racist Caricature of Batarians wrote:Alright... So what do you think happened then? Myself One Page Ago wrote:I don't know, that's what I've been saying. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. -Niccolo Machiavelli |
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Well then. Let us all just sit around and babble incessantly in our ignorance, shall we, Mr. Aleksanders? You seem to be having quite a jolly time in doing just that, and making light of every shot fired in the dark thus far, even though you see fit to not bother even trying to aim. It must be a Uni thing.
Or perhaps, it might be in the best interest of both our mutual sanities, and those of the mods of this board, if we just drop this topic altogether until the next morsel of news on the topic drops in. What do you say to that? Smile! You're in a UMW. |
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Vahruun wrote:Well then. Let us all just sit around and babble incessantly in our ignorance, shall we, Mr. Aleksanders? Or you could not be stupid. Also hurt feelings and "well let's see you come up with something better" isn't a great argument for why you should be right. It must be a Uni thing. Once again, please return to reality. There are a lot of very lovely things to discuss here though and oh look they might even be relevant to the conversation.Or perhaps, it might be in the best interest of both our mutual sanities, and those of the mods of this board, if we just drop this topic altogether until the next morsel of news on the topic drops in. What do you say to that? No because that implies, in some way shape or form, anything you said was not the product of a babbling self-inflated idiot. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. -Niccolo Machiavelli |
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Mr_Sandman wrote:
Vahruun wrote:Well then. Let us all just sit around and babble incessantly in our ignorance, shall we, Mr. Aleksanders? Or you could not be stupid. Also hurt feelings and "well let's see you come up with something better" isn't a great argument for why you should be right. It must be a Uni thing. Once again, please return to reality. There are a lot of very lovely things to discuss here though and oh look they might even be relevant to the conversation.Or perhaps, it might be in the best interest of both our mutual sanities, and those of the mods of this board, if we just drop this topic altogether until the next morsel of news on the topic drops in. What do you say to that? No because that implies, in some way shape or form, anything you said was not the product of a babbling self-inflated idiot.I did not intend to imply that your lack of a forthcoming- I am quite attached to reality, thank- Oh very well then. I concede to your quite clearly vastly superior intellect and wisdom. I do apologize for misappropriating your calling in life. Clearly the suit cut for you is that of a politician. Smile! You're in a UMW. |