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[Alliance]First elections in the System Alliance since the reaper war to be held in Athens
Krishna Tram – Alliance News Network System Alliance spokesperson Tam Percin made an official declaration yesterday evening, announcing that test elections would be held in Athens in one month. “The Alliance is well aware that many of its citizens are concerned about the five years plan never actually ending, and want their voting power back. This is the first step toward that goal. In three months, the citizens of Athens will choose their mayor.” The choice of city of Athens, Greece, is not random, since human democracy is believed to have originated there. “We will try a new unified voting system. If it works, more elections will be organized so people can choose their mayors, then as the System Alliance passes the reign of powers, prefects and presidents will be chosen before the five years mark.” The declaration was met with approval, although critics said that it was nothing more than a delaying technique. Mr Percin went on to describe the system. “To implement this, and make the best of this opportunity to start from scratch, we have benefited from the expertise of Asari consultants. The asari people have lived for thousands of years in an e-democracy, and have kept updating their system all along. Their input will be vital in areas such as security and fluidity of use. Voting is the most important thing a citizen can do, so we can only accept the best technologies.” This declaration was met with mixed feelings. Many people expressed shock at the idea that aliens were consulted in remodeling the core systems of democracy. Isolationist parties have threatened to protest what they qualify as “selling out the heart of Humanity to the alien agenda”. At press time three political parties had registered for the race. Presslink News Aggregator: Collecting headlines from across the galaxy. ((Official administration news feed. Please consult the Site Rules for submitting an article.)) |
calamity21 |
Nat wrote:Well you did say 'some of you seem quite eager to abandon democracy' when you don't have to be an evul anti-democracy separatist to have a problem with this development.
Maybe irony wasn’t labeled properly there. While I understand your position, I have the feeling not everyone in this thread is pro-democracy. If you are then it wasn't directed at you:)Nat wrote:Why is mars having elections?
I don’t know, I wasn’t here when that happened. I understood it was to fill the spots that were torn into the administrative body, right after the war. It was kind of ‘emergency’ and make shift, maybe a bit 'illegal' too from today’s point of view, but as I said, don’t imagine peace-time like election campaigning of politicians or something big, it was more like finding a common agreement among those left standing to keep the administrative structure running. You hear all kinds of wild stories from the martians who were around at that time! Weeding out Cerberus collaborators on top of that was difficult obviously. From what I read, the Alliance always had representatives in the martian colonial council, so that’s no fundamental difference now. Mr_Sandman wrote:Which I can't imagine that said Director-General would appreciate given that it's basically a passive aggressive way of telling them to fuck off.
Uh, no. I said, Alliance was very present anyway on Mars, it always has been. It is one of the largest – maybe the largest military ports in the solar system. The people here are used to live with military security zones, military installations and military personnel. It’s not like there’s a soldier with a gun on every corner now all of a sudden. Generally, it’s quite calm here, most civilians are working in one form or another for and with the military sometimes. I don’t see any aggressive actions towards them and the difference the current martial law makes in everyday life is pretty little, as I said.I can understand though that the feeling is not the same on a colony that was used to mostly be left alone by military before the war. Back on Earth in Hong Kong it was terrible to be honest. Maybe the claustrophobic atmosphere in the devastated city is making a difference. Mars is kind of widening your horizons and has a much more chill atmosphere. If the Alliance tries to overthrow the proper election plans after the five years though that would be a different story. Doesn't look like it. |
Mr_Sandman |
calamity21 wrote:Maybe irony wasn’t labeled properly there. While I understand your position, I have the feeling not everyone in this thread is pro-democracy. If you are then it wasn't directed at you:) I'm pro "democracy is not the end all be all of sapient civilization nor the final, perfect, and preordained evolution of the political system and thus is not always applicable for a given society in a given circumstance and pretending otherwise is willful ignorance bordering on self delusion" thank you very much.From what I read, the Alliance always had representatives in the martian colonial council, so that’s no fundamental difference now. I would rather hope so considering it's effectively theirs.Uh, no. I said, Alliance was very present anyway on Mars, it always has been. It is one of the largest – maybe the largest military ports in the solar system. No offense intended but Mars is mostly a backwater. It had the prothean Archives, a number of EU and other megastate founded settlements, and a few Alliance outposts; hardly the lynchpin of Solar defense.Luna's the actual stronghold. And I imagine they might take some offense at the assertion otherwise.
I can understand though that the feeling is not the same on a colony that was used to mostly be left alone by military before the war. Back on Earth in Hong Kong it was terrible to be honest. Maybe the claustrophobic atmosphere in the devastated city is making a difference. Funnily enough Hong Kong's actually doing rather well for itself nowadays but that's rather beside the point; most colonies of any note or significance have substantial SAN and SAMC infrastructure in addition to being literally created by the SA (with all the benefits that entails). Honestly it's not the colonies that are the primary issue, it's Sol and Earth itself in particular.Mars is kind of widening your horizons and has a much more chill atmosphere. Case in point right here: this apparent self perception of Mars as a cool and laid back (but secretly badass) world of importance that is both critical to and casually exempt from SA authority. If the Alliance tries to overthrow the proper election plans after the five years though that would be a different story. Doesn't look like it. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. -Niccolo Machiavelli |
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SlightlyAzureDownThere |
“selling out the heart of Humanity to the alien agenda”.
Found this to be incredibly racist. Perhaps we should stop assisting humanity and let them figure it out for themselves. Find peace in the embrace of the Goddess. |
HereToHelp President of the Leaving The Ducts non profit organization. |
SlightlyAzureDownThere wrote:“selling out the heart of Humanity to the alien agenda”.
Found this to be incredibly racist. Perhaps we should stop assisting humanity and let them figure it out for themselves. Well that's just a quote from the local redneck. You shouldn't make get a bad idea of humanity from that. We have staunch asari haters on the board however who will probably take care of that... Welcome on CDN by the way! Leaving the Ducts offer a training, support and professional opportunities to all Citadel Orphans. We're based on Tayseri Wards, ask me information! Donations are much appreciated. |
SlightlyAzureDownThere |
thanks. to be honest these types of comments, though made by a redneck(don't really know what that means), is exactly why i hadn't made a profile and commented before. I can understand their apprehension but that remark reeked of xenophobia.
Find peace in the embrace of the Goddess. |
HereToHelp President of the Leaving The Ducts non profit organization. |
Sorry, it's idiomatic, means an uncultured, primitive person, usually from rural area.
And yes it's completely xenophobic. You have people like that everywhere unfortunately. Leaving the Ducts offer a training, support and professional opportunities to all Citadel Orphans. We're based on Tayseri Wards, ask me information! Donations are much appreciated. |
Mr_Sandman |
SlightlyAzureDownThere wrote:Found this to be incredibly racist. Perhaps we should stop assisting humanity and let them figure it out for themselves. While I agree that that comment is both stupid and improbably, hilariously, xenophobic the assumption that the asari are God's gift to the human race and terran political structures is no less so.HereToHelp wrote:Well that's just a quote from the local redneck. You shouldn't make get a bad idea of humanity from that. I'm sorry I hadn't realized the argument of non-representative samples applied only when you used it. So apparently merely because I don't care for most of the asari on the boards or, indeed, the asari you like and think the Republics goverment is trending to "completely retarded" I hate all asari.We have staunch asari haters on the board however who will probably take care of that... My, the things you learn. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. -Niccolo Machiavelli |
SlightlyAzureDownThere |
Mr_Sandman wrote:[quote=SlightlyAzureDownThere wrote:]Found this to be incredibly racist. Perhaps we should stop assisting humanity and let them figure it out for themselves. While I agree that that comment is both stupid and improbably, hilariously, xenophobic the assumption that the asari are God's gift to the human race and terran political structures is no less so.While I never stated that asari are your god's gift to your race, i might be emboldened to say that the Protheans were your god's gift. Not that I don't acknowledge that they played in my race's ascension as well. But we did intervene in the Relay 314 Incident and even went so far as to make the Hierachy pay your race reparations...so there's that. Find peace in the embrace of the Goddess. |
Mr_Sandman |
SlightlyAzureDownThere wrote:While I never stated that asari are your god's gift to your race, It's rather implicit in the notion that our recovery critically hinges upon asari aid and the retraction of Republic's support in this matter would be devastating. i might be emboldened to say that the Protheans were your god's gift. What does that have to do with anything? But we did intervene in the Relay 314 Incident and even went so far as to make the Hierachy pay your race reparations...so there's that. ...What does that have to do with anything. It was a joint, multi-species diplomatic summit with us and the turians as the principle actors. I...I'm sorry I don't really understand what you're trying to drive at here. That we owe you our non-client status? That the Republics alone are solely responsible for humanity's sovereignty?Do try to be consistent in your arguments, if you're going to try to prove that you're not xenophobic perhaps laying off the self aggrandizement might be in order. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. -Niccolo Machiavelli |
stardust |
SlightlyAzureDownThere wrote:But we did intervene in the Relay 314 Incident and even went so far as to make the Hierachy pay your race reparations...so there's that.
Don't mention the war. (you know, touchy subject...) But in all fairness, it was a Council effort. If memory serves right, the turian councilor withheld his vote on the matter as good diplomatic gesture but the salarians should not go unmentioned when it comes to the peace treaty effort. The four party talks were memorable events in recent Council history. Welcome to the site! |
GoneRampant Ex-Alliance Sentinel, currently running a shop on the Citadel. |
Oh God. You're telling me that after just one year of no Reapers, they're resuming their true form of... politicians?!
Shut up, I'm allowed to make Reaper jokes because I fought on Earth. OT: Seriously, can we place fix up Earth and before letting the politicians ruin everything? Issac Jones. That's the name, don't wear it out. |
Inquiry By The Homeworld We Hope To Protect |
GoneRampant wrote:OT: Seriously, can we place fix up Earth and before letting the politicians ruin everything?
Well, they experimented a bit with this on Earth right after the war ended.It went a tad poorly. |
SlightlyAzureDownThere |
stardust wrote:
SlightlyAzureDownThere wrote:But we did intervene in the Relay 314 Incident and even went so far as to make the Hierachy pay your race reparations...so there's that.
Don't mention the war. (you know, touchy subject...) But in all fairness, it was a Council effort. If memory serves right, the turian councilor withheld his vote on the matter as good diplomatic gesture but the salarians should not go unmentioned when it comes to the peace treaty effort. The four party talks were memorable events in recent Council history. Welcome to the site! Thanks for the welcome. It might have been an innocent omission on my part with regards to the salarian councilor, but without the backing of the asari, how much pull did the salaries really have with either the turians or the humans? I might be as humans have phrased so colorfully "pulling this out of my ass" but even from a small psychological point the humans would have found us, from all three races, the ones they could trust since we look similar to them. Or maybe i'm just showing my age...or ignorance...or both! Find peace in the embrace of the Goddess. |
Mr_Sandman |
MsBlueVagoo wrote:It might have been an innocent omission on my part with regards to the salarian councilor, but without the backing of the asari, how much pull did the salaries really have with either the turians or the humans? So...you are doing this? ...Seriously? I might be as humans have phrased so colorfully "pulling this out of my ass" but even from a small psychological point the humans would have found us, from all three races, the ones they could trust since we look similar to them. Going off your username I'd say you're pulling it from another place entirely but, rest assured, it still thoroughly reeks of stupidity. Or maybe i'm just showing my age...or ignorance...or both! Yes. Both. Let's go with both. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves. -Niccolo Machiavelli |
asari_promiscuity |
SlightlyAzureDownThere wrote:It might have been an innocent omission on my part with regards to the salarian councilor, but without the backing of the asari, how much pull did the salaries really have with either the turians or the humans?
It's purely anecdotal - and I have no idea whether it might even have had an impact on governmental thinking - but I recall hearing from my extended family in the Union that there was quite a lot of unease during the 314 Crisis at how readily the Hierarchy had undertaken their mobilisation without a very clear picture of what they were up against. My impression (I'd have to go trawling through the news archives before I'd call it factual, but whatever, for now) is that the Union was at the very least in favour of delaying any further escalation, and did put forth arguments to that effect in Council channels. Whether you'd call that outright support for the peace initiative, or just a confluence of interests between those seeking peace and those wanting a pause while they figured out who the enemy actually was, who knows - I've heard they say politics is the art of compromise.Also, welcome to CDN. :) |