to the sick bastards who shipped this to me

Why in the galaxy are humans hating on Salarians now? That's the sort of thing I expect out of degenerate Krogan, and with the genophage they have an actual excuse. Is it just because Sur'kesh got missed by the Reapers? How does that make any sense? The ability of some "sapients" to seemingly have no other goal but to make everyone as miserable as them continues to astound me, especially after the invasion of the hell-machines from Dark Space that were clearly so much better at it than them.

It might have something to do with this.

That fringe STG elements are experimenting on reapertech? That doesn't surprise me, nor should it surprise anyone. And it doesn't justify hatred for the vast, vast majority of salarians who are just living their lives. Especially those like the OP, who wasn't on Sur'Kesh for the war and went through just as much hell as the rest of us.

Racism is never justified.

So, since racism is never justified, what would your opinion be on a hypothetical bioweapon with the power to sterilise a race, on the basis that said race was too intrinsically violent to be allowed to breed naturally?

I really don't see what the genophage has to do with this. I certainly was not born when it was created and dispersed, and I'm fairly certain the Hierarchy supported curing it and lent aid to Commander Shepard in doing so.

I will state that I do believe that it was a necessary measure at the time. Whether or not it should have been counteracted sooner is now an issue for historians to discuss, I feel. Call that attitude racism if you'd like, but I call it far more a realistic view of the facts.

But again, how does something that happened generations ago have anything to do with people justifying hatred towards all members of a species for the actions of a select few who are opposed by many of their own kind?

I do not approve of hostility against Salarians, but I share the consternation of the Galaxy at the fact that their government is the ONLY ONE who never took arms against reapers. The salarians who did were actually doing it against orders.

Then I can only wish you a long and happy life of cramming crayons up your nose.

So racism is bad, except when it's necessary. Gotcha.

Or, you know, it could be how for a while we were getting harvested and bombed by the millions, along with the turians on Palaven, and the Union did nothing but figure out how best to screw up over, once we won the war for them. The STG had to volunteer in order to join in, because the dalatrasses were content to sit back and let the rest of us get blown to hell. And when the Cerberus Coup pressured them to finally do something, they sent one goddamn fleet, when the war was already half over, and just about everyone was under attack, or about to be.

And the sad part is that they were right all along, I guess. They didn't take the Reapers seriously, so they didn't give everything to try and stop them, unlike everyone else. So while the rest of the galaxy is chest-deep in billions of dead and rubble, Sur'Kesh and its people are untouched. As you said, the Reapers never even got there. The people who had to be forced to give us token assistance got out of the war practically unscathed. And as you can see from those leaks, like fucking clockwork, once the war was over and the relay network finally got back up, they went right back to figuring out how to get a leg up on the rest of us, while we were just trying to scrape an existence together.

That's the long explanation. The short one is that the fact that the Union had to be dragged into the war to actually do something, and got out with barely a scratch, means that a lot of people aren't too keen on salarians. And while it might be unfair, it also means there's a lot of bitterness when salarians show up to help us rebuild our lives. It's essentially, "Hey guys, sorry all those billions of people were wiped out while we pissed around and debated how to fuck you all over on our pristine homeworld. That was our bad, in hindsight. But we're here now, right?"

I've tried not to be one of the frog-haters, because I know not all of you guys are necessarily reps for the Union, and a lot of you are trying to help. It's pretty fucking hard when I can relate to where they're coming from, but I manage most of the time. Side note, though, doesn't matter who a salarian is in their society, or if they fought in the war, or anything like that: As a general rule, no, I don't care about the future of the Union, or how 'tumultuous' they think it's going to be. So they don't need to talk to me about it every chance they get.


As for the OP, it sucks that you're getting death threats, if that's really what that is. It's unfortunate, but I can't say I'm surprised, given the above.

Really, you'd think that universal resentment would be a small price to pay for keeping your fleets, planets and economy totally intact, but I guess that would mean having nothing to bitch about.

That you truly believe this, boggles my mind.

Well...yes. War is bad, except when it's necessary. The krogan were bombarding garden worlds from orbit. They presented the hierarchy with no other choice. It wasn't a good thing, but it was necessary.

And Fourth, your argument seems to boil down to "the Salarians haven't *suffered enough* for me. Which is pretty terrible.

You asked why a lot of humans hate salarians. I was giving you some perspective. As I said, I try not to fall into that full-on hate for you guys, mostly because of my job, since there's responsibilities and expectations that come with it. But yeah, like I also said, I can understand where a lot of the outright frog-haters are coming from.

For my part, it's not really about whether your people suffered enough. It that's when everyone else was getting blown to hell or turned into husks, the Union was fine with sitting back and doing nothing, or next to nothing. They weren't under siege, their forces weren't tied up everywhere, but they apparently decided to hold back so they could be ready for the post-war world. Fun fact: For folks in the Earth Resistance, the idea that we'd even beat the Reapers was the stuff of dreams. What life would be like afterwards wasn't even a consideration.

So after the war, when we heard that the Union basically did everything they could to stay out of the fight, because they were planning for the long-term while we were fighting just to have a future... Well, I can't imagine you'd know how that would feel, but trust me, 'bitter' doesn't come close to describing it. But thanks to time and... counsel, I think the blame for that can be laid at the feet of the Union's leaders, and I have no problem with them being raked over the coals and cursed out as the politicking scum they are.

So no, it's not that salarians didn't suffer enough, it's that they didn't do enough when it mattered, just because it wasn't them being threatened with extinction. And while you can rail on for days about how generous and helpful they're being now, it's always going to be too little too late. I'll save my respect for the guy who stands at my side in the fight, rather than the guy who comes in later to help me bury all my people. He might think he's due a bit of gratitude for it, and maybe he is. But they way I see it, it's the least he can do can do, when all those people died so he could live.

That's just my general feeling, though. I like to think I welcome anyone, salarian or not, to prove me wrong with things like that.

Ah, I see. So racism is fine, so long as you arbitrarily declare it to be necessary. In that case, I believe it is necessary to be racist to salarians, since if you are anything to go by, they are abominably impervious to logic.

Actually, it's more like:

"The salarians haven't suffered at all, yet still somehow feel free to complain about their plight to people who have lost their God damn homeworlds."

Er...I'm a Turian.

So the OP is not allowed to complain about getting a death threat? Despite the fact that he did nothing, and is actively attempting to help rebuild Earth? Because his species' planet, that he may or may not actually be from, or have seen in years, escaped harm, he's supposed to shut up and take it? What about the Quarians? They got their homeworld back and it's in good shape. Are they supposed to just smile when they're discriminated against because of 300 years of oppression and mistrust? Are Krogans not allowed to complain that they're treated like mindless thugs because Shepard cured the Genophage and Tuchanka escaped the worst of the damage?

I've heard an expression while I've been here on Earth helping to rebuild- "nobody wins at misery poker". Just because someone doesn't have it as bad as someone else doesn't force them to pretend they have no problems. Otherwise, we all should just shut up, because we're all damned lucky to be alive.

Looks to be tasty.

If that is what I said, I would have said it.

My point is that when certain salarians complain about taking heat for their blatant inactivity during the Reaper Wars, they might do well to remember that the other races have suffered massively more than them. In short, it is like a spoiled rich kid complaining about how all the poor peasants aren't nice to them because they're too jealous.

But how is this individual responsible for the inactivity of his government? Surely the fault lies in the Dalatrasses that made the decision, and not acerbic extranet users.

they should have eaten them.

then be boss and have government fight reapers.

Not all of us utilize cannibalism, vorcha; but I feel like I should agree with the overall sentiment.

How hard is this for people to get?

oh wait

a vorcha got it

how magnificently stupid people this galaxy holds