[Science] Geth Construction Collective Announces New Platform

Geth Construction Collective Announces New Platform

Vesnic Veghae, Eye on the Veil Blog

The Geth Construction Collective announced today that it would be introducing a new standard mobile platform. The new platform, called the “Basic Bipedal Platform for Geth, Iteration 732,” is in many respects a downgrade in that it exchanges raw strength, flexibility, speed and power for a sleeker form-factor, a wider range for its integrated communications suite, a longer-lasting power supply, and the advanced 'expression flaps' that have been mounted on the platform's head.

Much of the internal memory and processing power has been simplified as well; while previously most platforms could easily serve hundreds (and in some cases even thousands of geth programs), this new platform only has room for seven.

When questioned about the reasoning for the new platform, the Geth Construction Collective stated that the new platform was created with conservation of resources in mind, while at the same time enabling Geth to explore the galaxy on their own or in small groups. They added that previous iterations were primarily built with military purposes in mind, and that this iteration was meant for demilitarized, diplomatic uses.

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Apologies, ladies.

The quest is how hazard proof are these new platforms.

Well, given the news article, not anywhere as much as the combat models we're familiar with to help diplomatic efforts. Which probably means that 732 wouldn't be the physical model they send out on, say, exploration operations given the inherent dangers we're all aware off. That, and I think the geth collective at large has the smarts not to use the wrong tool for the job given they're already putting the method into practice with social combat with this iteration.

Well I find these geth fascinating, really, for various reasons. The move from using military platforms for physical interaction to more multipurpose models is interesting, it makes me wonder if perhaps the geth would move to a more standardized platform system and just make minor modifications to account for other tasks.

Dyson, is that something the geth would be interested in? A base platform that can be modified easily for other roles rather than various platforms built specifically for different roles as your kind seem to do now?

Most geth platforms are already designed with multiple functions in mind. Consider: during galactic reconstruction many prime units were deployed to help clear debris that would have been to heavy for most organic units and to serve as mobile servers for geth software. While these prime units were capable of advanced warfare, the design allowed for a variety of tasks to be successfully completed.

However, despite many geth models being able to serve a similar function as the new platform, organics associated such models with past warfare with the geth. Thus, a new unit with more expressive features was found to be a beneficial change for both geth and organics.

In regards to your inquiry, since platforms serve as physical tools of the geth and not permanent bodies, predictions would indicate the geth will always trend towards specialization of mobile units over a truly multipurpose unit.

All points affirmative. With the vast majority of the geth population living in servers, bipedal hardware must be built to suit functions required.

An analogy: building aircraft, submersibles and rail lines instead of a single travel craft to traverse space, ground traffic and underwater trenches.

There are several angles to consider for myself on this.
First, I have had close and personal experience with a detachment of geth during the war. Something like this sticks, whenever you see their single light. Some… caution is still welling up. But on Ranoch they seem to do quite well and getting along so we’ll see. I try to lose the term "flashlights" as well, as I try to avoid "furheads" (hey Job, specific jokes may be an exception).

On the other hand I am fascinated by the engineering and would like to see what enhancements they already put into the new expression flap system. Any demilitarization of the general platform is a good thing as well, I'd give them credit for that. But I think - and Dyson, correct me if I am wrong here - the geth need more interaction with the other species to gather further knowledge to further improve in interspecies communication. I just hope they are clever enough to see, that suddenly flooding the galaxy with lots of data-gathering platforms would be not the best idea to gain trust.

This new platform seems to be a first step, acknowledging that the existing ones may be considered to hostile and limited in possibilities. The exact nature of how geth are individuals and nonetheless a common entity are still a bit mysterious to me, but then, VI / AI is not my field of expertise.

This one would like to take the opportunity to ask the geth present: assuming this is true, precisely why are they interested in improving their faculty for interspecies communication? As it understands, the geth are not as curious about organics as organics are about them. Indeed, it has been given to understand that the geth are simply not as curious in general, possibly due to the nature of their origin (a similar if lesser case exists with its own species).

This statement is misleading. It implies a complete disinterest in the universe and our “role” within it, when a more accurate observation is that “curiosity” is a stratified construct and that observation need not always be overt.

Example: asking a forum consisting of multiple species on the nature of emotion creates more issues than it answers, as multiple species experience the “emotion” phenomena in different ways. It is analogous to attempting to find a universal infection algorithm for organic parasites; there is no single method used, and attempting to discover a single means is both myopic and counterproductive for forming means of hypothesis. While it may produce interesting dialogue for organic species, it does very little in terms of fomenting communication between organic and synthetic; thus, while a xenoarcheology-oriented program may find it of interest, it does not for those inhabiting this platform.

This one did not intend to depict a false dichotomy between "curiosity" and "complete disinterest", and apologizes. However, is it not accurate that - as it has believed - that the geth can be generalized as less curious than organics, and that this is in part due to their origins?

Curiousity is a misleading term for the geth's inquiries and observation into organic society, as what constitutes the emotional state of curiosity can vary from individual to individual among organics. However, data is required for consensus, and the geth have been monitoring and creating limited interaction with organics since our emergencein in order to gain such data.

Whether this behavior qualifies as curious is a matter of the observer's opinion.

I think what we label curiosity is the urge to find data that isn't relevant to our immediate needs. Geth could say "frak you all and see you never" and just go into isolation again, never to be heard of. Instead they choose to interact with organics, gather data about them. We interpret it as curiosity.

This interpretation is flawed. A predator studies it's prey, but it is not called curious. Regardless of the geth's purpouse, a study of organics was a certainty.

Are you sure? I would specify the predator analogy as "relevant to immediate needs", therewith not what Mr. Slaver meant, I think.

Absolutely. And please, call me Bintar!

Am I the only one concerned that the analogy immediately shifted to "predator"?

This analogy was used to highlight what is incorrect about user: 4Eyes4TheWin's statement as posted above. He assumes the geth's reasoning for studying organics is non-essential and benign and, thus, they are curious. This interpretation of the creation of model 732 is flawed, because such benign motives are an assumption by user: 4Eyes4TheWin.

However, to address user: White Eyes concerns, the geth have no current hostile intent towards organics.

Well. I come back to see geth posting on the board.

I need some time to process this. I may have a few questions for you, but I have a feeling that they'll just end up derailing the topic. They involve a sensitive subject, at least to us humans.

Searching for “sensitive subjects for humans.”

Processing.

Contributor-Son_of_Orion, queries on the subject of “philosophical questions on reproductive endocrinology” are inadvisable, as accessible data on this subject is limited to this platform's basic search queries.

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No. A thousand times no.

What the hell, I'll just go ahead and say it. The sensitive subject I'm referring to is the Eden Prime War. Your race claimed that a "heretic" faction was responsible for the conflict. Here's what I don't get; you claim that you only wish to study and seek peace with organics, and yet, you didn't even attempt to stop the heretics from terrorizing our colonies. We all know what this war led up to, and you just sat back and watched.

Why? Did you ever consider the possibility of the galaxy being even slightly more accepting of your kind if you interfered? You made no attempts to communicate with us, no attempts to assure us that this wasn't what your entire race wanted. A lot of deaths could've been prevented if you just stepped in and helped us. Was this all part of some damned study to see how we would react to such an offensive? Were you testing us?

I lost a lot of good friends in that war. Damn near died in it, too. I want the truth.