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Cipritine Announces Legion/Cabal Integration
Via Claria Artin, Hierarchy Colonial Feed Cipritine, PALAVEN - A number of legions, depleted from harsh fighting on the homeworld just one year ago, have seen new blood from a very unexpected source - cabalists. A recent decision from the Hierarchy has begun a radical new experiment: biotic integration into existing legions. Spearheaded by the Office of Strategic Studies and put forward by a number of planning groups, this is what many have declared the next step in a systematic review of Hierarchy military principles. Fewer are happier to hear about the news than those legions chosen for the experiment - legions most bloodied by harsh fighting on Palaven, such as the 23rd Dirisin Legion. “I’ll admit, I’m not too sure about biotics. None of us ever talked much to any who don’t have tentacles growing out of their heads, but we’ve taken too many losses and seen too many things to say no,” stated Legion Corporal Artanis Rederix. The sentiment was largely echoed by the rest of his legion. At the time of writing, details are largely classified, although it’s known that at least sixteen legions are participating in integration - with joint exercises expected to begin as soon as possible. It’s unclear how many cabals have been involved in this integration; however, officials stress that it is merely a minority, with involvement of biotic trainees being reviewed by strategic planning groups. Not all are so happy with this experiment, however. General Vana Ramius expressed her dissatisfaction over this movement in a short interview with the Hierarchy Colonial Feed. “Frankly, this is absurd. None of us, least of all our soldiers, know how to deal with this. The division has existed for longer than most asari live lives, and we’ve all been trained under the assumption of that division,” she declared. “Retraining our soldiers and unmaking drilled instincts will cost us time and energy I doubt we actually need to spend. This isn’t a question of biotic prejudice, this is a question of necessity.” This was a concern that the Office of Strategic Studies was quick to respond to. “This will not be an easy transition," admitted an OSS representative. "Legions and cabals have existed as mutually exclusive entities for more than a thousand years. Barriers need to be broken down. We need to understand the best way to develop synergy between our soldiers and the unique abilities of these former cabalists, and implement those changes. There will be growing pains, but the committee has decided this is a transition best dealt with sooner rather than later.” The timeline proposed by the Office of Strategic Studies has suggested that these controlled integrations will continue in stages for the next five to seven years. A secondary Strategic Review Committee is scheduled to convene over its effectiveness shortly thereafter. Presslink News Aggregator: Collecting headlines from across the galaxy. ((Official administration news feed. Please consult the Site Rules for submitting an article.)) |
Veritas |
DWICK wrote:
Veritas wrote:
VictusDaMan wrote:I think your third step-daddy dropped you on your head one time too many when you were a kid, Mr Authority on turian mil.
And that's your idea of an insult? Talking about my parents? Go ahead. Ever heard of Imperius Productions? You know, that HVid studio that churns out garbage where biotics are always villains? Yeah, those were my parents. My father is currently a corpse, and I consider that a fraction of what he deserved. At least Mom's face is all over the tabloids now that it's come to light that she's a Spirits-damned hypocrite. She gets to suffer, like she should. takin' dat as a "yes" HEY LOOK EVER'ONE MR DADDY ISSUES' PAPPY DROPPED 'IM ON 'IS HEAD AS A WHELP At least he didn't drop me on my balls. Or was that your ma, Dwick? I can't quite recall. Veritas Imperius Proud [TRANSLATION ERROR: did you mean "Catamite"?] of the [REDACTED] Turian Hierarchy. IMPORTANT USER NOTE: This patient of the Invictan Institute for Mental Wellness has been granted limited Extranet access. Please inform a Wellness Officer by clicking here if this citizen displays symptoms of suicidal ideation or overt aggression. |
Blue^2 |
Why didn't you just say "fuck 'em" and leave, then? Merc outfits don't pussyfoot around about you being a glowie. The Suns are automatically better than the Cabals by virtue of the fact that I get to see more'n the same six faces every single tour. And eat with them. And sleep with them. Cabals are big on the 'small' in 'small-unit tactics'.
So yeah, the Hierarchy is only just now getting their talons outta their rectums and doing what the fucking furheads managed to get into their skulls. Don't like it, just join the Suns. And not just for Cass' poetic arguments~ |
dwik |
Veritas wrote:At least he didn't drop me on my balls. Or was that your ma, Dwick? I can't quite recall.
well yeah 'coupla times ![]() [DWICK DWICKCAST SYNDYKYT] da best shows on holovision |
Archmagus Blood, Fire, and Steel Legionnaires Forever |
The_Sarcastic_Salarian wrote:And let's not forget the envy of seeing two people out of your entire legion being able to bend the fundamental forces of the universe with their minds.
Yeah but really, gotta love how the glorious future is integration and anyone who's a bit leery of it is just "bitching" or "an idiot" or "a closeted Cabal fucker" (okay seriously where the hells did that come from?). The only people who are really actually talking about how this could fuck with everyone else are, in order, a blink, a frog, and one actual turian. So yeah, fucking hells, I mean I get that most of the people actually going back and forth about this are glowies themselves so it's gonna be a bit skewed but really? Legion's greatest asset is its discipline and, to say the stupidly obvious , marine tactics aren't Cabal tactics. They're not trained the same, they're not used the same, and trying to integrate the two's more of a shitty "feelgood" bit than anything else 'cause, at the end of the day in the Hierarchy, they're not the same. Cabalists got it rough yeah I get that but at the same time what about the average marine who's gotta work with and depend on someone who can do with their mind what everyone else needs disruptor torpedoes or ships or fucking resonant warp generators to do? What about the logistics of mixing in glowies; their food and supplies (and b-buh furheads! isn't a spiritsdamned argument, the hairy fuckers don't have a solid millenia of baggage to sort through and compensate for)? And before the hatemail starts pouring in my main point is that there are actual problems (GASP) with putting the two together besides the fact that apparently all the marines are bassakwards xemnafucking hicks while the glowies are long suffering saints or some shit. Edit:
And not just for Cass' poetic arguments~
Also fuck you. |
Silver Future Raelon Pasharan Sundowner Shaman |
Battis can pick up an armoured personnel carrier with his mind, but that doesn't mean he can fix one. (We don't let that boy in the toolbox. It's not pretty.)
Honestly, I feel a lot better having him around to take care of the heavy lifting while I take care of the computer stuff, and the snipers do their thing, and.....well, integration works, proof being: we're all here to talk about it in the aftermath of the Reaper War. What do you do with a whole crapload of biotics in one place? Particularly if the bad guys are spreading out their forces? And who does the stuff the biotics don't or can't do? In manus tuas commendo spiritum meum. |
SteelUnifier Die for the Cause |
Blue^2 wrote:Why didn't you just say "fuck 'em" and leave, then? Merc outfits don't pussyfoot around about you being a glowie. The Suns are automatically better than the Cabals by virtue of the fact that I get to see more'n the same six faces every single tour. And eat with them. And sleep with them. Cabals are big on the 'small' in 'small-unit tactics'.
'Join the Blue Suns' is literally the most backwards advice you could ever give.So yeah, the Hierarchy is only just now getting their talons outta their rectums and doing what the fucking furheads managed to get into their skulls. Don't like it, just join the Suns. And not just for Cass' poetic arguments~ Why contribute your unique abilities to something actually worthwhile when you could contribute your powers to an institution literally built on blood money and conflict. Oh yeah, that's so much more fulfilling - using biotics in exactly the self-serving and gruesome way that people despise biotics for and getting paid barefaced credits for it. |
LadyJo Location: Presidium, Citadel |
I believe I went on the record saying it's going to be a logistical nightmare on the very first page. In the present climate I still think cabals are the most effective way to deploy biotic abilities. While socially I much admire the human system of allowing a biotic to serve anywhere they are suited, tactics-wise its not ideal and its going to be a pain to change over on every level.
The main reason I can see for doing it now is if we don't, in fifteen years the demographics are going to skew in a big way. The cabals will have to take a boom of recruits that our system is not equipped to handle and the regulars will find themselves short of bodies. Better to try and hash out some sort of middle ground now, I suppose. Perhaps they can maintain the cabal system as an elite biotic unit rather than a catch-all for everyone on the spectrum. I don't think our military should throw away the advantage of all-biotic units so quickly. Jovina Sethtak - Headmistress, Hierarchy Biotic Academy (Citadel Branch) > Hierarchy citizens living on the Citadel wishing to inquire about prenatal or newborn biotic testing and care should contact the [Turian Embassy]. > For all queries regarding enrollment ages, curriculum, student life, and the Biotic Aptitude Exams, please contact the [Biotic Academy]. |
Collar |
SteelUnifier wrote:
'Join the Blue Suns' is literally the most backwards advice you could ever give.
Why contribute your unique abilities to something actually worthwhile when you could contribute your powers to an institution literally built on blood money and conflict. Oh yeah, that's so much more fulfilling - using biotics in exactly the self-serving and gruesome way that people despise biotics for and getting paid barefaced credits for it. Bitch and moan all you want but you know who had turians, batarians, humans, and the odd krogan all working together before the war? Or asari, salarians, humans, and the occasional batarian? Or vorcha, krogan, and batarians? That's the Blue Suns, Eclipse, and Blood Pack, respectively. Say whatever you like, we know a thing or two about integration. |
Blue^2 |
Collar wrote:
SteelUnifier wrote:
'Join the Blue Suns' is literally the most backwards advice you could ever give.
Why contribute your unique abilities to something actually worthwhile when you could contribute your powers to an institution literally built on blood money and conflict. Oh yeah, that's so much more fulfilling - using biotics in exactly the self-serving and gruesome way that people despise biotics for and getting paid barefaced credits for it. Bitch and moan all you want but you know who had turians, batarians, humans, and the odd krogan all working together before the war? Or asari, salarians, humans, and the occasional batarian? Or vorcha, krogan, and batarians? That's the Blue Suns, Eclipse, and Blood Pack, respectively. Say whatever you like, we know a thing or two about integration. This. You should probably take a real serious look at yourself when 'an institution literally built on blood money and conflict' is a few decades or so further ahead in the integration and equality sector. But that would mean... gasp... the Hierarchy might have been wrong about something! Archmagus wrote:Also fuck you.
Shh, Cass. Not until you buy me dinner first. |
SteelUnifier Die for the Cause |
Blue^2 wrote:This. You should probably take a real serious look at yourself when 'an institution literally built on blood money and conflict' is a few decades or so further ahead in the integration and equality sector. But that would mean... gasp... the Hierarchy might have been wrong about something!
Excuse me while I laugh at the mercenary's accusation that I should take 'a real serious look' at myself. I don't think I ever made my point about the Hierarchy (nice job at the red herring, though) - my point is that you're only feeding people's confirmation biases by going into barefaced shit like mercenary work and shitting on the powers that you've been given - over anyone else - from a great height by using them for your own profit at the expense of other people. Acting like it somehow addresses a bigger problem concerning people's viewpoints regarding biotics is fucking idiotic. Maybe glowing blue isn't the best characteristic, and maybe I get that, but you've solved literally nothing by doing worse than productive things with them. I'm sure your powers to manipulate the forces of the universe itself validate themselves every time you throw a Singularity into some angry, dissatisfied mob of Terminus citizens. |
Archmagus Blood, Fire, and Steel Legionnaires Forever |
SteelUnifier wrote:
'Join the Blue Suns' is literally the most backwards advice you could ever give.
Why contribute your unique abilities to something actually worthwhile when you could contribute your powers to an institution literally built on blood money and conflict. Be...cause you make bank for it? And, I dunno, you're doing something you like and are good at? Shh, Cass. Not until you buy me dinner first.
Go fuck yourself then. |
SteelUnifier Die for the Cause |
Then maybe you should consider that 'serious look at yourself' (a Blue^2 endorsed position) because what you 'like' and what you're 'good at' is violence and death. Hey, maybe the rest of the galaxy won't judge you because you're a biotic anymore. That's a win, I guess. They'll just judge you because you shoot people who don't deserve it and get paid for it.
Either way, you clearly don't give a shit about self-image. |
Seeker31 |
SteelUnifier I don't think I ever made my point about the Hierarchy (nice job at the red herring, though)...
You're a turian commenting in a newsfeed about the Hierarchy's policy regarding biotics, and last I checked you're not one of the separatists. The context is pretty clear.SteelUnifier...my point is that you're only feeding people's confirmation biases by going into barefaced shit like mercenary work and shitting on the powers that you've been given - over anyone else - from a great height by using them for your own profit at the expense of other people.
You don't really know what mercs spend most of their time doing, do you? SteelUnifierActing like it somehow addresses a bigger problem concerning people's viewpoints regarding biotics is fucking idiotic. Maybe glowing blue isn't the best characteristic, and maybe I get that, but you've solved literally nothing by doing worse than productive things with them.
Aside from establishing a logistics and unit integration model the rest of the galaxy can barely hope to compete with, you mean? You're wrong anyways, since you seem to think all mercs do is rape and pillage and whatever. Most of the time they're doing security work - real, actual security work, and generally they're contracted to keep things quiet, not to start wars. Okay, sometimes they're brought in to finish wars, but even then they're usually supporting local forces which again, saves lives. You hear about when things go wrong because the news thrives on viewers who don't want to hear about how quiet things were on most colonies on any given day, but it's hardly an accurate representation of what mercs do like 99% of the time. |
Capice Shepard Lives! |
Seeker31 wrote:
Aside from establishing a logistics and unit integration model the rest of the galaxy can barely hope to compete with, you mean? You're wrong anyways, since you seem to think all mercs do is rape and pillage and whatever. Most of the time they're doing security work - real, actual security work, and generally they're contracted to keep things quiet, not to start wars. Okay, sometimes they're brought in to finish wars, but even then they're usually supporting local forces which again, saves lives. You hear about when things go wrong because the news thrives on viewers who don't want to hear about how quiet things were on most colonies on any given day, but it's hardly an accurate representation of what mercs do like 99% of the time.
Come on, even AEGIS was full of it, in the end. Mercenary armies would thrive on instability and weak, mutually antagonistic states, right? (Or maybe some imperial effort that needs soldiers they can deny being responsible for) Either way, mercs don't want the problem to resolve itself, cause that means no more job. You act like this is some unfair prejudice when just asking "And what incentives do they have?" is enough to put everyone's backs up. Drell-Persistent Utilizer re: Exhaustive Rhetorical Analysis in Service of Perceived Advocacy. Thane Krios Memorial Foundation |
SteelUnifier Die for the Cause |
Seeker31 wrote:You're a turian commenting in a newsfeed about the Hierarchy's policy regarding biotics, and last I checked you're not one of the separatists. The context is pretty clear.
And if you paid literally any attention at all, you would realize that that's not the current point of discussion. Conversations evolve. Pretty sure the 31 in your name stands for your intelligence quotient, because if you actually bothered to notice, you'd see that no one is talking about the Hierarchy and legion/cabal integration any more. We're talking specifically about how biotics are treated in society and, y'know, how fucking stupid 'mercenary' is as an alternative. Try and keep up. Seeker31You don't really know what mercs spend most of their time doing, do you?
Apparently they spend 90% of their free time posting on the extranet about how cool #merclife is. Seeker31Aside from establishing a logistics and unit integration model the rest of the galaxy can barely hope to compete with, you mean? You're wrong anyways, since you seem to think all mercs do is rape and pillage and whatever. Most of the time they're doing security work - real, actual security work, and generally they're contracted to keep things quiet, not to start wars. Okay, sometimes they're brought in to finish wars, but even then they're usually supporting local forces which again, saves lives. You hear about when things go wrong because the news thrives on viewers who don't want to hear about how quiet things were on most colonies on any given day, but it's hardly an accurate representation of what mercs do like 99% of the time.
Oh, please. You don't start wars, you just help finish them. Big fucking difference. You're vultures who start circling whenever you smell blood. Don't throw your shit at me and expect me to eat it up, whatever distinction you're trying to prove between fighting wars and enforcing police actions for shitty tinpot dictatorships is meaningless. Everyone knows why they go to groups like the Blue Suns or Eclipse for 'police action' and 'to keep things quiet', and that generally means 'shoot on sight until citizenry goes quiet'. And don't pretend that you're always some third party that simply steps in before things get out of hand, and have no hand in provoking certain decisions - shit like Tshombesha (or whatever the fuck it's called) only happens because groups like the Big Three exist to escalate the conflict. Feel free to try and reduce my point to 'mercs rape and pillage', my point is that you're opportunistic, barefaced fucks who feed off the instability of the galaxy. Feel free to wave 'we treat biotics better' in everyone's faces, the point is society still won't. That's the big issue, and if you don't care what people think about your career choice as a mercenary, why did you give a shit about how people thought about you as a biotic. |
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Yeah, sorry but I won't buy the "mercs are a stabilizing force" either, you just turn money into violence, allowing any asshole with money to start his own wars, even fraking slavers. Well when you're not doing the slaving yourself.
And of course there is the total lack of oversight. Because we have to assume that you guys don't use unnecessary force, pillage or rape around just because you're that swell? Or because you're so worried about PR? Right. Leaving the Ducts offer a training, support and professional opportunities to all Citadel Orphans. We're based on Tayseri Wards, ask me information! Donations are much appreciated. |
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grass is growing awesome today...wish u guys could see this #merclife #cdn #worstpostingever
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