Am I the only one...

...who doesn't really care about Sur'Kesh?

I mean, c'mon, be honest. We all saw worse news than this during the Reaper War, and sure it's sad for anyone who lost friends or family or whatever, but the Union came through the galactic apocalypse looking pretty nice and even the asari (who basically caused the whole mess by not telling anyone about the fully functional beacon and not properly developing the technology therein and just generally being complete bosh'tets at the governmental level) can't make the same claim. There are still a lot of worlds in rotten shape, some entire species' (*cough*) are endangered, and now the salarians are calling for aid and stuff when they're the only ones who're in any way intact to begin with? There is literally nobody in the galaxy better able to provide aid to the salarians than the salarians themselves, and diverting resources towards rebuilding one one world that's (relatively) unscathed while entire colonies have turned into post-apocalyptic wastelands where a few brave men and women struggle to survive against insurmountable odds? And this isn't even counting the worlds on the other sides of the relays that aren't rebuilt yet, and who even knows what's going on in space that hadn't been explored? There are probably some entire (other) species' in danger of going extinct because the Reapers turned up and stomped them and nobody was there to help!

speaking of which

has anybody heard from the raloi?

i'm very concerned about the raloi.

am i the only one who's very concerned about the raloi?

oh, guess so.

(That was ironic you see because I stopped using grammar and so on. Proves my point I hope.)

I'm going to be honest here, but I reckon it's less a care over the frogs themselves, but rather the fact that the ones who did the bombings happen to have demostrated they have access to WMDs. This, I believe, is more or less the cause of most of the attention towards the attacks on Sur'Kesh.

That, and the bigger the hole the salarian leadership digs themselves into before they realize they're stuck, and the better the rest of us make ourselves to be in the public perception, means we can extract a larger amount of resources from the union to go towards reconstruction.

The question you should be asking is:

If the STG can't stop them, what can the rest of us do if they decide to act against anyone else?

Compared to the rest of us, the salarians are the best-known for these things and they're the most intact on top of that, just like that. If they act against the rest of the galaxy, we're basically fucked.

Thus it's in everyone's best interest to stop them now before that happens, caring personally or not. Way I figure it, anyway.

Sure, maybe (but probably not) you're right, but even so (which is assuming a lot), how does sending food and medical supplies to the largest surviving economy in the known galaxy stop said terrorists?

Credits move everything. The less resources they have to spend on recovery, the more can be used to deal with it. Presumably.

I was more answering the 'why should we care' thing than anything. Could help in better ways, definitely.

Your concern for my species has been noted, even though it was ironic in nature. It is more than others have given to the issue.

The STG (probably) are working on it. Solving terrorism doesn't happen overnight.

Worse things happened during the war, but the war is over now. This isn't. MY PEOPLE ARE SHRELLING DYING OUT THERE.

The Reaper-damaged worlds can be repaired later, they're not going anywhere. The Reapers aren't blowing our arcologies with thermonuclear bombs.

Sure, the resources would help elsewhere, but this can't wait. When all this is over, the salarians will be the first to help the other worlds. But for the moment, as of now, Sur'Kesh is in danger. And threads like this really aren't going to help salarian morale.

User: TechOptryx appears to be alluding to his own species as being endangered. However, usage of the word in this context requires that one adhere to a strict definition, such as the one provided be the Castneb-Forman Classification For Threatened Species.

However, with a population of several million and the assistance of geth units, Creators are not currently endangered by any scientific definition of the term. The only way that Creators imminently face extinction is the same in which all current sapient species share: An unexpected resumption of culling by the Old Machines, or otherwise voluntary extermination by a third party sapient species.

Given that this would invalidate the subtext of the term, this statement is either erroneous or deliberately misleading.

No you are not.

Yeeaah, if past performance predicts future results...

Maaayybe a 50/50 chance of you helping? You're doing right by the drell (direct donations to K research, not going though the Primacy) but we had to save your counselor. The Union left a lot of people to die. Maybe you'll quit if it actually gets hard.

This one has been cautious regarding its commentary, for it is concerned it may inadvertently cause offense. It has no desire to minimize the suffering of those affected by the attack, or of those who fear escalation. However, it believes an argument can be made for the distressing situation on Sur'Kesh being a continuation of, or conclusion to, a process of transformation that has swept through the Many Voices since the Darkening. These ones are at times subject to tempests they cannot divert, but which they must endure. It is the argument of several learned philosophers of this one's reef that sapient beings, in times of distress, have responsibility to seek opportunities for personal growth. It has taken these teachings to core!

It is aware that there are presently many destructive rip currents within the Salarian Union. It proposes, though, that destruction and creation can be considered aspects of the same process, particularly in terms of spiritual reconstitution. The salarian reef is experiencing change, it is headed for a large-scale paradigm shift. This one is very distressed for those who are suffering, but it wonders if comfort might be taken in the precedent that other races have recently set? The galaxy's peoples have come through the Great Storm having learnt much, and have chosen to better themselves in order to honour those who have been lost.

The krogan have been cured of the genophage, and are rebuilding their relationship with the Citadel. The quarians and the Servants of the People have reconciled, allowing greater integration of the originally disparate perspectives of organic and synthetic! The batarians have rediscovered their suppressed capacity for spiritual inspiration. The honoured asari have confronted, and made efforts to correct, earlier errors and hypocrisies, and the humans have excised the spectre of Cerberus. All have been left wounded and dimmed, but with renewed capacity for self-comprehension and renewed investment in the journey toward greater illumination!

This one asks the others to hold strong to their compassion for these ones' allies on Sur'Kesh, and aid them in making the same transition as the rest of the galaxy!

It would caution the other, TechOptryx, that while it understands the other's perspective, one must avoid callous disregard for others' suffering!

'but we had to save your counselor'

Yes, you had to save our counselor, but Valern had a stick up his cloaca so long it reached out through his mouth. If he'd actually got somewhere safe instead of wandering C-Sec gawking at dead humans, you wouldn't have needed to save him.

'The Union left a lot of people to die'

Don't know if you'd noticed, but we're not krogan. Salarians aren't built for all-out combat. We saved as many as we could under the circumstances, but there's no way to help them all. I'd have thought you of all people would understand that.

'Maybe you'll quit if it actually gets hard'

Implying it hasn't been hard before?


So you're saying it's going to get better? That's very reassuring, thank you. I'll be sure to tell that to the relatives of the body-bags over there; it'll make them feel a whole lot happier.

Dude, that was supposed to be a compliment. You're actually showing us some kind of camaraderie, and your response is you shouldn't have had to?


Do I look like a frigging Krogan? Am I built to get wailed on? The drell actually are shorthanded but we fought the Reapers, per capita, as much or more than any other race. We are a remnant, client, sickly group of indentures and you are a council race. You should have done BETTER than us!

I'm not saying you deserve it. I'm just saying that everyone's totally justified to take your promises of health with a grain of salt.

The sentiment is unlikely to ease the pain of those who have lost loved ones. This one would not suggest otherwise. It will refrain from commenting further if it is causing offence.

Hm. Fair point. I suppose you did well, under the circumstances.


You fought fought. We infiltrated Reaper bases and detonated bombs in them fought. You wouldn't expect a turian to fight underwater - and you can't expect a salarian to fight conventionally.


Only a grain? I was expecting something more along the lines of a shaker.

(And that was a joke, before you call me out on it.)


... Apologies. I meant that knowing it'll get better later won't help much now. A little agitated right now.

The other need not apologise! It must be under considerable stress. This one believes any minor lapses in etiquette are entirely understandable!

This one can only offer what it hopes is an uplifting message. It acknowledges that it has no means to offer practical aid. In recent months, it has learned how to accept its limitations when confronted with tragedy beyond its control. It sincerely wishes it was not required to apply its lessons so soon.

Pretty sure you're hilariously ill-informed.

i'm very concerned about the raloi.

Or perhaps I was referring to the drell! You geth really aren't very good at subtlety. You completely misread me.

Here's a good reason to be concerned on your behalf: As you said, the Salarians have one of the most intact galactic economies left.

The galactic economy is entirely interdependent. One weakens, and they all do. The destruction of entire cities is a massive economic impact. By attempting to relieve the damage caused by said destruction, we in turn reduce the damage to our own economies. The Raloi are not anywhere near as big of a concern as they are not in any way, shape, or form involved in galactic economics. These attacks will cause the Salarian Union to focus internally and likely reduce external trade, as it focuses on repairing damage and dealing with the crisis. It is in the best interest of everyone that their issues are not allowed to continue more than necessary.

You're very boring.