Slaves4Us Convict Outreach Program

Hey everyone, let me show you the new Slaves4Us project I've been working on, it's very cool, we're launching today. This announcement will be broadcasting thorough the terminus, but I wanted you guys to be among the first to see it!


Slaves4Us conglomerate presents...

"Sorry sir, but I'm afraid the city can't give you the money you need to rebuild your house anymore..."
"What? But why?"
"Well as you know we caught the man who destroyed it. And it turns out that the cost of jailing him are rather prohibitive for a small colony like us. Very sorry. There is just no other way"

Hello folks! My name is Bintar Ranak, executive for Slaves4Us, and I must ask you, how often did that happen? Don't we have a better way to handle our convicts?
Well now we have! At Slaves4Us we're starting a new and exiting program, the convict outreach. It's very simple, if you're from a Terminus colony, and have a convicted prisoner, give us a call! We'll come by and take him off your hand for the duration of his sentence for a cost going from a tenth of what you would normally pay to jail him, to absolutely nothing!

Indeed, our prices go down depending how long the sentence is, reaching 0 for a lifelong one. You can also get fabulous discount by using Slaves4Us services such as construction, entertainment, and much more!

While your convict is with us he'll work hard and learn a trade, and the value of order and discipline. Just imagine, those overpopulated prison becoming a transit for convicts until they get picked up for a new adventure, a new life! What you could do with the money saved! And to know that instead of rotting in a jail, that formerly lost citizen is helping the Galaxy somewhere in the stars.

Now for Q&A

"This is great Bintar, but how do you handle violent criminals? Don't you risk them getting lose?"

Excellent question! But you need to understand that the Convict Outreach Program is nothing new in its root, in the time of the Hegemony we would get manpower from the government all the time as criminals. What is new here is mostly the concept of non lifelong contracts, and the scale. Our methods to restrain and discipline them are honed and perfected.

"We do something like that in my colony. We call it community service"

Community service could look like what we do, but the truth is that law enforcement is rarely able to correctly put prisoners to work like we do. Those "services" often end up costing pretty much more than what the prisoners do save. We have a better expertise.

"Why stop with convicts? What about junkies, vagrants?"

We don't make your laws, but if you think that a few year of hard honest work would clean up the ones left out of your society and turn them into productive citizens, well we're happy to work with you on that.

"But how will our citizens be treated? We don't want to get paraplegics back!"

Worry not, it is in our interest to take care of the convicts you put in our care! Our construction incidents, for example, are below the Illium standards of safety!

"I'm sorry Bintar, but my millennias old cultural bias make me see that solution as unacceptable, unlike putting people to rot in a cage for years, and have them learn the trade of murder from other convicts."

Ho well, you can't convince them all! Hey, we're still all friends!

And the rest of you please contact us! Slaves4Us is present on the extranet! Don't hesitate to discreetly petition your colony leaders to consider it!

Maybe tomorow, you won't have to pay for criminals anymore.


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So what do you guys think? I'm very psyched about it!

I'm thinking I'm going to horrify my kinfolk when I say I'd rather go back to the Hierarchy's prison.

I suspect that your program would either have sent me back onto the battlefield again, shooting targets of an owner's choosing this time, or made me into a hooker (catering to the type who like underage girls).

At least I could trust the Hierarchy to feed me, give me an education, teach me a trade, and not whore me out (either figuratively or literally).

...I think I've also horrified my PR manager, poor dear, but it was never a secret that I did time. It might even be an advantage in this neighbourhood.

I think you should go jump in a vat of thresher acid, you goroblinkfuck.

Najhil thinks that 4Eyes4TheWin is a despicable Person that should go die in a Hole.


...oh, about the Idea? See Above.

I think...that this idea is close to something good.

OK, hear me out. Rather than have some random slave company take over the criminals, what if we made to adjustment that rather than sitting in jail, criminals have to be indentured to their victims/victims families for the duration of their sentence. Slaves4Us could sell the collars to the justice system and maybe offer some advice for control techniques (the less evil techniques that is) to keep the new owners safe and in charge, while the police could just keep up checks to make sure abuse wasn't happening and maybe limiting some of the more degrading or dangerous types of occupations. What would this do?

Well for the victim, s/he gets retribution AND the benefit of whatever the criminal produces. For the justice system it reduces costs because they don't have to run the jails. For the criminals, they still get punishment, but their temporary masters actually have an incentive to have them learn job skills (as the better the skills of the criminal, the more money the victim can make off of him/her) while at the same time keeping them out of an environment of being surrounded by other violent criminals who reinforce the behavior.

Isn't this better than throwing all the offenders together in cages?

This doesn't even sound that bad. That makes it even worse because it's coming from the mouth of a slaver. When was the last time you saw on honest slave salesman? Anyone?

Are you fucking stupid? Do you have any idea what will happen if you hand over a criminal (who may or may not actually be guilty) to their victims?


"control techniques"

"less evil"

Fucking listen to yourself and what you are advocating.

4Eyes, I have a legit question.

Exactly how sustainable is the slaving industry at this point? Doesn't the boom in low-maintenance low-cost synthetic labor kind of...I don't know, seem set to phase you guys out within the next couple decades, except maybe a few speculators for traditionalist 'keep it in the species' Na'hesit?

I realize you can't fuck a geth so that probably leaves a few deeply reprehensible niches that might not have the same risk of becoming obsolete, but please explain for the benefit of your potential investors (hahaha) how your profession is going to make it through the next thirty years.

Now doctor, you should not be that quick to draw conclusions, geth are inherently very flexible when it comes to form, and their natural curiosity in general is commendable, additionally they do have a concept of pleasure, (although it might be better described as satisfaction than outright pleasure.)

So it is really a matter of making your case and convincing them to (temporarily,) take a form that is conductive to the activity and have that form give feedback to them they can interpret as pleasurable. A daunting task especially this early in our interactions but not impossible... I would personally consider it a challenge.

Dippocrates, if the OP wasn't an unabashed slaver you'd be at the nadir of the thread right now.

...so how is this different to indentured servitude?

Thanks for the feedback thus far everyone! I'm happy to see that this project raise interest. Let me try and answer a few questions.


Absolutely no facet of Slaves4Us is military. We rely entirely on the Blue Suns for defense, and never, ever use our slaves as soldiers. In the program we also take into account the subject's preferences. Some people prefer the entertainment branch than the construction one, I believe you would not have been one of them. Now, between the hierarchy's prisons and working on the field to rebuild colonies, what would you have prefered?

Pariah, N. Holken, although your criticism is appreciated, I'm afraid it's not specific enough for me to address it. Please specify your issues with the program.

PrayerForTheDamned : We actually take the opposite route of what you describe. Our convicted slaves aren't even allowed to work in proximity of their victims, because it may cause them to relapse, or the victims to look for revenge.

Thank you very much! Hopefully, honest slave salesman will be the norm of the trade in this new era!



Thank you for that excellent question mrs Nedas (Vas Nedas? I'm not sure on the proper etiquette, I'm very sorry). I would have included it on the Q&A, but I preferred to keep it on the question of the program itself.
A lot of studies have been made with the new challenges this new world brings. Basically what transpires is that slavery can actually grow if it adapts and become more professional, and if AIs don't become widespread. If Geth start doing jobs, we can't compete. But then again, who can?
Compared to regular VI controlled mechs however, even top of the line, slaves are always better, especially since we do use a few mechs with them. It's just a question of intelligence versus VI, a fight a VI just can't win.

'Ms. Therion' works, the end of the name just signifies that I'm not crew of a ship (because I live on a planet).


...That might actually be what helps you out, now that I think on it. Labor in general has been kind of a changing scene for the past year. There's bound to be eventually some kind of legislative dust-up over right-to-work laws and how they apply to synthetics vs. people with actual needs, and anything the Citadel passes is going to get at least looked at heavily by other governments.

Concern for workers' rights being the thing that saves the slave trade would be one of those bitter ironies that seem to pop up regularly now, wouldn't it.

I... What? I mean, I don't... huh? Has that... ever happened? To anyone? I just... what?



OH GOD!

MY EYES! MY EYES! MY PRECIOUS, INNOCENT IMAGINATION!


I really, really wish I hadn't read this thread....

I...

Batarian, what the hell. Spirits, what is actually wrong with you. You're even worse then normal slavers. You know what normal slavers do? They sell slaves. The difference? I hear all sorts of sob stories in court.

"Oh Judge Valens, please give this man a minimal sentencing. My client was born in to the trade."

"But your honor, my client had to feed his wife and 2 kids."

"Your honor, my client is mentally ill and does not understand what he's done."

But you.

YOU

You act like you're doing the galaxy a SPIRITS DAMNED FAVOR OF BUYING PEOPLE'S LIVES. Is the prison system perfect? No. Especially not when it's private run, because then it turns into a criminal factory, because they corporations make more money if the accused come back. But you know what's worse? Paying a crime with a worse crime. Buying their life, forcing them in to labor.

You say that they'll be taught discipline and at least contribute to society hmm? Do you know what I think they'll be used for? Mercenaries. Cold blooded, heartless, nothing-to-live-for soldiers of fortune. What corporation in their right mind would buy criminally insane slaves as a labor force even in the terminus? The only market they'd be found in is cannon fodder, or maybe the sex industry. You're not saving lives, you're taking them. Using them until they're nothing but a corpse or a shell and then tossing them away.

And you know what's the worst part? You couldn't have come here looking for customers. Of course not. I don't see many terminus warlords around here that can take you up on your offer, I should know, I've been looking for them. Which leaves the sickest conclusion that I've come to in a long time. You've come here to get peoples moral approval of your work. You want to stroke your ego with you hearing people say that you're doing a good thing.

Four eyes, you better hope we never meet in a court. I won't even blink when you go from a prison cell to a court room for 10 years before you even start serving consecutive life sentences for each sapient life trafficked that I can trace to you. You so much as sneeze in the direction of the citadel and I will be on you like smoke on a fire.

Good day you fucking degenerate.

Law and Order, first thank you for your feedback, but it seems to me that you're unclear on how the program would work. The convicts would NOT be sold to anyone, they would be under Slaves4Us supervision and work on contracts. So no mercenary work. Once again we never arm our slaves or bring them in combat. And they are returned at the end of their sentence, in good shape of course, if we don't want to lose clients.

About finding customers I think you would be surprised. I found customers here already.

And C-Space is just not manageable for our activities yet I'm afraid, so we won't meet there.

They beat you more.

Oh boy, I know where THIS is going...

Let me picture it...

Let me start off with a VAGUE, DIRECT INSULT towards the SLAVER in question.

I will then go on about how said SLAVER is a HORRIBLE PERSON, attempting to list multiple FLAWS and ATROCITIES associated with said SLAVER. I will DECONSTRUCT and CRITICIZE every aspect of said SLAVER's ORIGINAL POST, because people on the Extranet do that.

I will then continue via an EMPTY, MEANINGLESS DEATH THREAT because if there's one thing that'll make ANYONE QUAKE IN THEIR BOOTS, it's a THREATENING MESSAGE OVER THE EXTRANET.

And then maybe I'll aim a petty insult towards his mother. Have the wall of text end on a high note.

criminals who commit crimes against skhash are eaten by skhash.

so outreach program not at all useful.


skhash think that oxymoron

I'm afraid Kloro doesn't export criminals, we know how to handle our prisoners. You also mention that the convicts will not be sold to anyone, am I understanding correctly that you therefore only rent slaves instead of selling them? Or is that only part of this particular undertaking.


You have now Judge Valens. I am Governor Jemak, of Kloro.

The only customer I am aware of is the salarian who managed, in a stunning display of idiocy that I have never seen before in the species, to sell himself into slavery