[Politics] Demonstrations in Republic Colony Suppressed by Security Forces

Demonstrations in Republic Colony Suppressed by Security Forces

Tullin Gavern, Zakera Times

Public demonstrations on T’ahirn, one of the Republic of Tharog-Ekair’s major colonies, have come to an end after a week of civil disorder following the deployment of government security forces to dissolve the protests. “What seemed to be a peaceful protest under the auspices of Republic law quickly devolved into anarchic violence and mass rioting, to which a demonstration of force was deemed necessary to restore order”. Said Minister of Public Security Tharog Jarick in his official statement this morning.

The Republic, situated in the Veios Nebula within the Terminus, has long been dominated politically by a branch of the krogan Clan Tharog and the batarian colony of Ekair since the Republic’s formation in 1582. In the wake of the Reaper War various constituents within the Republic, including turian, asari and human interests, have called for wide reaching political and social reforms, including greater representation within the Republic senate, a lessening of state economic regulations, and calls for a convention to amend the Republic’s constitution.

The demonstrations, which were centered primarily on T’ahirn’s capital of Uriak, have resulted in over 27 deaths, 481 injured, and up to an estimated 40 billion credits in property damage, according to the Republic’s official report. Opposition groups, including the New Reform League, which had sponsored the T’ahirn demonstrations, have accused the Republic of dissolving the protests without provocation, and for releasing inaccurate information regarding the total number of fatalities.

“The Republic is trying to shift blame away from its own forces by holding us accountable for the lives lost in T’ahirn”. NRL spokeswoman Enaya T’sain stated “This was a peaceful demonstration that was violently assaulted upon by government forces without provocation. What we have seen here is the final proof that our leaders have lost the right to govern the interests of the Republic and its constituents.”

The events in T’ahirn have been but the latest in a series of protests across several of the Republic’s colonies, leading many political analysts to predict that the demonstrations may very well culminate in a general insurrection, if not outright revolution.

That's disappointing. That anyone would deal with civilians in such a manner....

So a Krogan/Batarian government situated in the Terminus uses violence to repress it's people?

That's not news.

All things considered, I have to agree. It's good we're hearing about it at all, and the fact that it's common doesn't make it right, but "Political Violence In Terminus Micro-State" is not exactly a startling headline.

Would the three of you kindly get over yourselves, unless you have some experience in Terminus colonial administration or politics that you'd like to share?

Jarick could, and probably is, talking out of his ass. Tharog has been in power a long time and they want to maintain their hold on their position, something that is, you know, understandable considering that they were one of two founding members of the national government. It's in their best interest to look like the good guys here. It honestly would be a bit stupid if they weren't even making an effort to.

Also something that has been conveniently overlooked:


even if this is an exaggeration by an order of magnitude, (which unless the internal transport system went up in flames it probably is), that's still a fair chunk of the city utterly wrecked. Something that, if nothing else, at least lends credence to the claimed casualties.

Finally, I really do love the fact that the immediate reactions are alternately "oh those poor civvies" and "well what did you expect living in the Terminus". Did any of you consider that the NRL might be bullshitting their claims just as much, if not more, than the government? Or that this is a Citadel based publication which, odds are, is going to have a bias against a Terminus government? Or maybe that, you know, this is a complex political situation with significant consequences for both the Republic and surrounding nations and nobody involved is wholly innocent?

I'm sorry that's a silly question, why give it thought when you can just go "Terminus"?

why call it a republic when only minority of citizens are represented? That's more like oligarchy

A republic is by definition a political state that is not governed by a hereditary monarch. Democracy not required.

Well, what do you expect living in the Terminus?

I will freely admit I have no idea which side, if either, can be considered to be in the right. I've literally never heard of the Republic before and I'm not going to make a moral judgment based on all of one news article. But I don't see how any of that negates what I said, which is that 1) this kind of thing is very, very common in localized Terminus polities and 2) it's a shame there are innocent people being caught in the crossfire.

I'm not condemning anyone without more information. Right now, all I'm saying is that I wish it was more shocking to hear about things like this.

And hierarchy_dad, the formal name a government uses does not have to have anything whatsoever to do with the actual nature of that government.

The Turian Hierarchy is not made out of turians entirely hur hur hur

"Common in localized Terminus politics". Firstly no, no it really isn't, not unilaterally anyway, surprisingly enough it actually depends on the location. Considering that you never answered my question regarding your experience with Terminus administration or politics I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that, like most inhabitants of C-Space, you have none. By your own admission, certainly none with regards to this particular nation.

Allow me to enlighten you: unlike what you most likely assume the Terminus and Abyss are not a collection of warlords fighting over the biggest scraps. The Ad'Thoro Pact territory, New Nova before the Reapers leveled it, the Sultanate, Orozvhad, the Va'liat, the Marshals's holdings, Malsolaris Complex, Taneli Protectorate, even Omega itself to a degree. All stable regions of the Terminus. All well administered. Furthermore, even in Tharog-Ekair, there is absolutely no guarantee that the situation is anything like what either side has claimed despite your...assumptions.

Secondly,

Except you totally are.

@Mr. Sandman: Are you seriously trying to argue that political violence isn't comparatively common in the Terminus? The major states are much more stable than Citadel space pop culture would have it; that's why I specifically said "localized". But even with them, conflict is considerably more likely to be resolved violently than it is in Citadel space - I remember reading news articles about a war between (IIRC) Orozvhad and the Vonskar Coalition literally as the Reapers invaded the galaxy. The last major war involving a Citadel state was in 2185, but the last one before that (disregarding the geth) was... I honestly can't even remember.


Yeah, there's no guarantee that either side of this thing is telling the full and exact truth, but I find it extremely difficult to believe that there is no violence at all. And I can't say I'm as surprised at it as I would be if I was hearing similar news from one of the Citadel states.


I'll freely admit to making a judgment about the generalized nature of politics in the Terminus, although I would call it more "commonsense" than "moral".


...Okay, seriously, why is this still going on?

FER DA LAST TIME

SCREWBALL JUNIOR IS NOT A SPIKEBUTT (yes he is) (NO HE'S NOT) (yes he is) (NO HE'S NOT)

40 billion credits of damages? oOoO They could buy my company with that money, how the void did they break so much stuff?



From the codex : A republic is a form of government in which the country is considered a "public matter" (Latin: res publica), not the private concern or property of the rulers, and where offices of states are subsequently directly or indirectly elected or appointed rather than inherited.

It does imply elections at some point, even if it's not everyone who can vote. It doesn't seem to be the case here.

No, because that would be stupid. Is political violence comparatively common? Yes. Is it the lawless hellhole that most people in C-Space seem to think it is? No. That is also stupid.


Except it isn't, given that your "common sense" is based on the absence of knowledge rather than any actual experience or education on the subject.

Granted not that that's stopped every idiot on the extranet ever.

Are you more interested in expressing outrage than in actually reading my post? I literally just said this:


What I've been saying all along is that I'm rather resignedly used to seeing news about things like this in Terminus space, because violence is more common there, not "Terminus space is a blood-soaked anarchic living hell where not a day goes by without a dozen warlords waging war on each other".

I'll openly admit that, yes, I'm neither a Terminus resident or an expert in its politics and history. But if you're going to go after someone for "absence of knowledge", please make sure you actually know what they're saying.

I so do love the rampant goal shifting and backtracking in your posts. People such as yourself truly make these discussions a joy.

Now, on to less tedious things.


No it doesn't but, to be fair, it's really only the asari who have the whole total democracy thing going on.

Two things of note, one, seems the Republic had enough of its military intact to keep the populace in check without hiring any of us. Second, and this I find got overlooked:


Don't think we've seen the end of this show, folks.

Heh, you know, just going off of what you said, think there's a good chance that that might change in a bit.