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Okay, you freedom-for-yourselves-fuck-the-rest slavering people, I've got a question for you.
This is an age where we have synthetic servants with VI, or in some cases, AI for intelligence alongside old flesh and bones and brains option. Since some of you are so keen on pushing the "cultural rights" as excuse, tell me this: Are synthetic servants seem as inferior to organics, that moan, complain and stage slave revolts if given chance? Is it utility or some manner of tradition that rates different people into different values of slaves? If you had a chance to enslave, say, a geth, would you take it? "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." - George Orwell |
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Organic slave revolts don't have a tendency to reduce a species' population to 17 million, then align themselves with fantastically ancient sentient ships intent on destroying all organic life.
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Thank you for that excellent question Mr Ragum!
So why use organic labour when synthetic is around? Well at Slaves4Us we would tell you : why not do both? We use drones! We use mecks! But VIs are limited, they'll never do as much as organics do, because if they could they'd be AI, and it would be another can of worms. Organics are creative, they're smart, they adapt fast. A VI is perfect for repetitive tasks, but take my last job on that Salarian colony during rain season. Everything was muddy, nothing was as its right place, there were ruins, constantly changing circumstances. We needed organics to constantly react fast enough. And sometimes pilot the mechs around. Now would Slaves4Us accept a Geth member into our family? With open arms of course! They would add a new perspective and new skills, that we could use to make our users even happier! Slaves4Us is here to help you! Contact us with your need, and we will fulfill them in no time! We have Asari, Turian, Salarians, Batarians, Humans, Elcors, Krogans, Volus, Vorcha and for a special price even rare Raloi stock! |
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The Jannissary program uses slaves as drones and AI are not viable for the operations we conduct, in addition no-one wants to give VI, AI or other synthetic lifeforms significant political or military power (Though, god willing, this will change as geth integrate into galactic society). In addition, in our roles as publicized heroes and servants of the government, an organic is far more-
Oh, you were referring only to the batarians in a poorly veiled attack on their culture. Of course. It would've been simpler if you simply singled them out by name. |
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Yeah, this sounds like you've got a mite in your ass, son. What's the matter? Batarian turn you down at the bar recently?
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Non-batarians are also encouraged for input, I presumed there'd be some status related thing to the batarian culture bit but whatever
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It would seem to me that the effort put into maintaining a broken slave is far too tedious. Paying said servants minimum-wage based on your location and economy is probably more efficient, both financially and psychologically. This argument is particularly favorable in the case of strong-willed individuals; some sentients simply can't be brought low.
As far as geth go, they would be extraordinarily useful as assistants in the information relocation industry. However, as Mr. Mano'har has stated, their remarkable success in revolutionary endeavors invalidates the process of enslaving them. Again, I argue for minimum wage, but in the case of the geth, one would have to determine what they deem a valuable exchange for their time and effort. Information Relocation Service Professional | Revenant Co. Serious Inquiries Only Cerastes, PhD. c: [0-156] | o: [REV-CO 7435] |
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Some things organics can do that synthetics and AIs, no matter how advanced, can't replicate. Frankly I don't see slaving as an industry surviving much longer - even now it's basically restricted to a few worlds in the former Hegemony and some minor Terminus powers, all under pressure to change. Isolated examples where it's practical might work and continue to work - sex industry, indentured servitude and so on, but as an institution it all but died with the Hegemony.
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Slavery works because societies allow its existance, even while reproving it. Slavewages or slave chains are sometimes more semantics than real difference.
When sentients come to their mind and turn slavers, including corporate ones, into living exhibits mounted on discarded husk stakes, life will be better. But this won't be anytime soon. hierarchy_dad wrote:Okay, you freedom-for-yourselves-fuck-the-rest slavering people, I've got a question for you. This is an age where we have synthetic servants with VI, or in some cases, AI for intelligence alongside old flesh and bones and brains option. Since some of you are so keen on pushing the "cultural rights" as excuse, tell me this: Are synthetic servants seem as inferior to organics, that moan, complain and stage slave revolts if given chance? Is it utility or some manner of tradition that rates different people into different values of slaves? If you had a chance to enslave, say, a geth, would you take it? |
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Cerastes wrote:It would seem to me that the effort put into maintaining a broken slave is far too tedious. Paying said servants minimum-wage based on your location and economy is probably more efficient, both financially and psychologically. This argument is particularly favorable in the case of strong-willed individuals; some sentients simply can't be brought low.
Speaking from experience minimum wage employment is far better at breaking a person's will than slavery. Please, just call me Hamilton. That's what everyone calls me. |
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Cerastes wrote:It would seem to me that the effort put into maintaining a broken slave is far too tedious. Paying said servants minimum-wage based on your location and economy is probably more efficient, both financially and psychologically. This argument is particularly favorable in the case of strong-willed individuals; some sentients simply can't be brought low.
Speaking from experience minimum wage employment is far better at breaking a person's will than slavery. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. He who is brave is free. |
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Bordacit wrote:
Cerastes wrote:It would seem to me that the effort put into maintaining a broken slave is far too tedious. Paying said servants minimum-wage based on your location and economy is probably more efficient, both financially and psychologically. This argument is particularly favorable in the case of strong-willed individuals; some sentients simply can't be brought low.
Speaking from experience minimum wage employment is far better at breaking a person's will than slavery. Great. So we have, what two people equating minimum wage to slavery? News flash: minimum wage is hard. But it takes a leap of logic to go from 'struggling' to 'broken and enslaved'. I am not a slave. |
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Tish wrote:Great. So we have, what two people equating minimum wage to slavery?
News flash: minimum wage is hard. But it takes a leap of logic to go from 'struggling' to 'broken and enslaved'. I am not a slave. Vohkaidin wrote:You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
It was a joke! Why so serious? Its not like we're talking about... Well ok, maybe a joke about slavery was in poor taste. I think I've spent waaaay too much time around Batarians. Starting to think of it as nothing more than a business. Please, just call me Hamilton. That's what everyone calls me. |
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It is my opinion that slavery is an outdated method of labor made obsolete by concepts like minimum wage and that it should be a crime equal to high treason for you are saying that you believe you are someone who has the right to tell other intelligent beings their place, which is wrong. It is my belief that all workers should be compensated for their labor.
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Gremlin wrote:It is my opinion that slavery is an outdated method of labor made obsolete by concepts like minimum wage and that it should be a crime equal to high treason for you are saying that you believe you are someone who has the right to tell other intelligent beings their place, which is wrong. It is my belief that all workers should be compensated for their labor.
Slaves are fed, clothed, and housed. That is compensation, whether or not it's actual credits. |
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Collar wrote:
Gremlin wrote:It is my opinion that slavery is an outdated method of labor made obsolete by concepts like minimum wage and that it should be a crime equal to high treason for you are saying that you believe you are someone who has the right to tell other intelligent beings their place, which is wrong. It is my belief that all workers should be compensated for their labor.
Slaves are fed, clothed, and housed. That is compensation, whether or not it's actual credits. Also provided with medicine, health regimen and entertainment in proper houses, or of course Slaves4Us. Slaves4Us is here to help you! Contact us with your need, and we will fulfill them in no time! We have Asari, Turian, Salarians, Batarians, Humans, Elcors, Krogans, Volus, Vorcha and for a special price even rare Raloi stock! |
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By your definitions, do your slaves possess the capability to self-determinate? If so, a separate term should be considered for describing their status.
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Dyson wrote:By your definitions, do your slaves possess the capability to self-determinate? If so, a separate term should be considered for describing their status.
They do not, they usually enter our fold because they don't trust themselves with self determination, or proved they can't be (in the case of the convict outreach program). Slaves4Us is here to help you! Contact us with your need, and we will fulfill them in no time! We have Asari, Turian, Salarians, Batarians, Humans, Elcors, Krogans, Volus, Vorcha and for a special price even rare Raloi stock! |
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This thread has exceeded usual time parameters for relevancy on extranet based forums. However, further clarification in regards to those who oppose slavery is requested.
Query for those who oppose slavery for moral reasons: what or who do you credit as the source of these morals? |