TheDoctorIsIn Nulisan Praesid, ex-Armiger Legionnaire, at your service. I run FEMES. |
Harrad_01 wrote:So it's not at all like the examples you tried to bring up to bareface your way out of it. Got you.
I'm not barefacing my way out of anything. Harrad_01 wrote:
I cannot waste time and resources discriminating between 'hostile' and 'non-hostile' in a fucking live-fire shootout beyond the people I need to rescue, whom, I might add, are fucking bleeding out and are already in critical condition, dying, by the time I GET THERE.
You know I did dropship missions for the Hierarchy for five years before I joined the Lifebearers, right? You know that I have seen and flown in the same shit you claim your team is staring down, right? Grand. No you haven't. Fan-fucking-tastic for you, by the way. Harrad_01 wrote:You know we did a fine job being able to discriminate, right?
Xemnashit. Harrad_01 wrote:And when we had to level a place we knew what we were leveling and owned up to it instead of making excuses.
What excuses have I made? We knew what we were doing, we knew who was in there, and we defended ourselves and carried out our fucking agreement to the letter. There is no downside, here. Harrad_01 wrote:What I'm saying is that if this is the way you roll, you're not only a hazard
I am not a fucking hazard spiritsdammit Harrad_01 wrote:and a bareface liar
last I checked I haven't fucking lied Harrad_01 wrote:but you and your team is just shitty at doing your job.
And you and your grammar is shit. Also no u Harrad_01I'm starting to think an analysis of your psychological state is exactly what you need.
False. I already had one. I got fucked for it. Because it's not like I'm half decent at management and administration myself or anything. Or have any idea what I'm talking about.
You're right, I'm sorry for that one- That's just crazy talk.
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TheDoctorIsIn wrote:
This coming from the guy who was OK with Korwun fucking Gorik being buddy-buddy with spiritsdamned slavers.
I'm fucking laughing right now. No. I am most certainly not ok with that. That's also over an' done with. Happened before I even joined, and we've performed no slaver-related jobs in my tenure with AEGIS so far. I had hashed it out with Gorik a couple times before he left about their past affiliations. Don't excuse it one bit, but my conscience is clean s'far as the AEGIS from when I joined forward is concerned. Same name, different style of leadership and organization. The others who've been here longer than me have their own ghosts. But yer deflectin'. TheDoctorIsIn wrote:
This is hilarious. You think I'm just mad about the fucking xemnashit psych discharge? FUCK no. I'm already proving them wrong about that discharge by sheer dint of the fact that I got my operation functional, staffed and competently-run. A few dead civvies whose existence in the first place is still in fucking question? So fucking what, it's Omega, nobody gives a shit except a couple of white knights who don't have the goddamn fortitude to dish it out and take it at the same fucking time.
I know yer mad about the discharge. Whether ya admit it anymore or buried it a long time ago is on yer shoulders not mine. Gettin' your operation runnin' ain't the issue. You were discharged because they felt that you were too shaken from the war to function without being a danger t' yerself an' everyone around ya. Go figure. Yer provin' them right by being completely unable to exercise any operation discipline. All I'm sayin' is yer better than that. Just be better than that. AEGIS: Protection, Liberation, Vindication. We Help the Helpless |
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harpadarp wrote:But yer deflectin'.
I know yer mad about the discharge. Whether ya admit it anymore or buried it a long time ago is on yer shoulders not mine. Gettin' your operation runnin' ain't the issue. You were discharged because they felt that you were too shaken from the war to function without being a danger t' yerself an' everyone around ya. Go figure. Yer provin' them right by being completely unable to exercise any operation discipline. All I'm sayin' is yer better than that. Just be better than that. Well, apparently I'm such a bad guy that I'm beyond that I- -image-
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Arrow wrote:I know yer mad about the discharge. Whether ya admit it anymore or buried it a long time ago is on yer shoulders not mine.
Arrow wrote:I know yer mad about the discharge.
Arrow wrote:yer mad about the discharge.
Arrow wrote:the discharge
Arrow wrote:the discharge
Wait what no-one ever told me he got discharged this changes everything C-Sec mail [here], personal [here], FEMES [here]. Is that all? Can I go? |
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Nice recursive loop you've got there.
C-Sec mail [here], personal [here], FEMES [here]. Is that all? Can I go? |
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Vigilance wrote:Wait what no-one ever told me he got discharged
this changes everything Vigilance wrote:Wanton destruction to help the innocent! Permission to go blow up some buildings?
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Arrow wrote:No. I am most certainly not ok with that. That's also over an' done with. Happened before I even joined, and we've performed no slaver-related jobs in my tenure with AEGIS so far. I had hashed it out with Gorik a couple times before he left about their past affiliations. And so officially returns the valiant crusader, charging in on the most high of horses to avenge all moral disparities with the sword of guilt and shield of pride.Don't excuse it one bit, but my conscience is clean s'far as the AEGIS from when I joined forward is concerned. Same name, different style of leadership and organization. The others who've been here longer than me have their own ghosts. Oh how I've missed you. TheDoctorIsIn wrote: You're on Omega. As far as comments one might hear go that one is positively tame. That's just crazy talk.
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I'm sure.
tl;dr for all fucktards all up in here We did our job. End of story. We got our clients out of the line of fire and patched them up. Exactly what we're supposed to do. The collateral damage here was a means to an end. The end. No other factor is relevant. We went in, accomplished our sole explicit goal, and just happened to clean up the streets a little in the process by wiping out two gangs. The big thing here that you guys seem to be basing your arguments on is moral outrage founded on the half-baked assumption that anyone who didn't have it coming got hurt, to which I say 'no sirs and madams, fuck you.' Done. Call FEMES today! We cut your legs off so you don't have to! Sign up today and we'll give you High-Threat Response coverage at half-price! |
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Mr_Sandman wrote:And so officially returns the valiant crusader, charging in on the most high of horses to avenge all moral disparities with the sword of guilt and shield of pride.
Oh how I've missed you. Shove it up yer ass, suit. What's wrong with expectin' folks to, I don't know, not blow up non combatants (even possible noncombatants) while on a rescue mission? Or not cause large amounts 'a property damage on a station that's slowly tryin' t' make itself a little better? AEGIS: Protection, Liberation, Vindication. We Help the Helpless |
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No other factor is relevant. We went in, accomplished our sole explicit goal, and just happened to clean up the streets a little in the process by wiping out two gangs. The big thing here that you guys seem to be basing your arguments on is moral outrage founded on the half-baked assumption that anyone who didn't have it coming got hurt, to which I say 'no sirs and madams, fuck you.'
Except I haven't been you fucking lul. Because honestly you did about the half way shittiest job of handling any situation like that at all. Blowing the shit out of everything if you are in a low operational capacity, which is what you sound like ye are, is pretty much up there with shitting on Aria's desk. Sure, you can pull this shit on the little players but eventually your going to hit someone hard enough to make someone bigger and meaner than you mad. Or make them push any clientele away from you. It's a vicious cycle that carries things on. Think of it like COIN, though I know that Turian policy on that is specifically blow things the fook up. But in the Alliance we recognize that pissing people off usually works against progress. It usually makes people either A: More pissed off or B: Less likely to help you. You can't just stomp on people's asses. 'course CSAR is different, but those guys were always so quick and clean that they never really needed to bring out the big guns. Dunno, probably difference in policy. Not exactly my specialty. Because honestly our gig was shoot the hell out of everything if shit went down. So I can't really be too hard on ya, just thinkin' more in the long term. What were ya using, Mantis Gunships? Or that Turian one I forget the name of? |
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TheDoctorIsIn wrote:Yes, and waiting for the fighting to die down is fucking retarded when your patients are wounded, dying, bleeding out, and possibly about to be finished off. If we need to clear an LZ ourselves to get at our customers and patients, we will do that.
I said worst case scenario. Believe it or not, even Omegans won't usually shoot at the neutral non-combatant who knows how to save their lives and isn't shooting at them, and are obviously much better at distinguishing acceptable targets from unacceptable ones than your men. It's perfectly possible to get in, stabilise someone, and evac them without having to level the place. I should know. I do it every-fucking-day, all without killing anyone.Not that the OHO’s endorsement matters, since FEMES is not part of the OHO anyways.
One where lives actually have value? One where killing God knows how many people to save one is seen as a bad fucking thing?!And it never will be. Which is precisely my point - OHO-registered organisations will be able to pick you up off the battlefield without having to mow down everyone who didn't sign a contract to do it. Who do you think people are going to use in the long run? [quote]What fucking fantasy land do you live in where you can’t do one for the sake of expediting the other? Sucks to be them? They were irrelevant? Probably should’ve stayed out of the house for another hour or two?
I repeat - you callous son-of-a-bitch. I wonder if you'd feel the same way if it had been your friends stuck in those buildings. Or your family. Or you, if friends and family mean nothing to you too. Just because you didn't know those people didn't mean they weren't people, you know. Right. Totally. That’s why most OHO member-outfits are struggling to stay afloat while FEMES isn’t doing too bad all on its lonesome. It’s because you’re a better medic than I’ll ever be. Get the fuck off your Spiritsdamned ‘I Am Holier-Than-Thou’ high-chair.
The OHO is struggling now, yes. Because we literally just set up camp a few months ago. Maybe we need donations now, but we're establishing trade links and making deals specifically so we won't have to in a few years. And yes, we are better medics. Every single one of us. Because unlike you, we have never prioritised one life over another simply because they paid us and the other guy didn't. Forgive me if I sound arrogant, but I think I have a right to the moral high ground here, no?Doctor LoveYou people are a disgrace to your profession.
Thank you. Please don't think all Omega medics are like this - it's pretty much just this dickhole. How do you even... where do you even start to find such an approach even remotely considerable!? I just... I can't fathom it! Gah! ManipleIt is efficient.
Really not helping dispel the whole 'soulless robot' stereotype there, geth. Would you really snuff out a good number of geth consciences to save one because that one paid you? I'd like to think you wouldn't, but what do I know?Doctor LoveIf you consider the OHO a competitor in any cappacity then you might as well count every half-assed startup with a shuttle, but that's besides the point.
And here I was, starting to like you. We might look like it now, but we are not a half-assed start-up. The OHO is a force for change that would never have been possible on the old Omega, but is definitely possible now. I will concede that we aren't competitors with FEMES, but that's only because we aren't in the business of saving people for money. We're in the business of saving people because it's the right thing to do. VigilanceThat Omega doctor lady is scary.
I am not scary. I'm just willing to make a moral stand, and if that means laying into a few jackasss who think they can disgrace the good name of my profession then I fucking will.TheDoctorIsIn If you go to the OHO, you’re pretty much fucked (because the vast majority of the crews that are OHO members suck).
No. They do not. We can't be everywhere at once. We can't save everyone. Not yet. But we don't discriminate when it comes to who we save based on how much they pay us, and we damn well don't kill people to speed along saving those we've deemed more worthy. Hell, if I found you bleeding out in a back alley, I'd still save you if I could, even though you're a worthless waste of skin who doesn't deserve the slightest bit of compassion. TheDoctorIsInThe OHO's outright admitted they’re constantly undermanned, underfunded, and pretty much need to get by on handouts
Again, that's case for some facilities and at this moment in time. Things are already getting better - if things continue at this rate, we'll be able to to force bastards like you out of business in no time. And the station will be a better place for it. VigilanceWanton destruction to help the innocent! Permission to go blow up some buildings?
Not funny. Not even a little bit. (that was a joke, before you say yes - I ran out of grenades a while ago) ArrowGod-damned sense for once in this thread
You. I like you. But you're being too nice to this shithead. He can be mad at his apparent discharge all he likes, but that gives him no fucking right to pull shit like this. Considering he levelled two buildings to save two people, I'm guessing there's a reason the Hierarchy discharged him. TheDoctorIsInSo fucking what, it's Omega, nobody gives a shit except a couple of white knights who don't have the goddamn fortitude to dish it out and take it at the same fucking time.
So I'm a white knight now, huh? Fine by me. I'd rather be a white knight than a fucking murderer. You can hide behind 'logic' and 'efficiency' and 'oh, they were probably gangers anyway' all you like, but it doesn't change what you are. Hurt on Omega? Not gonna stab us before, during or after your treatment? Head to the [Shepard Memorial Hospital] - the one on Lathos Arcology, before any of you get smart. Proud Affiliate Of: |
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Average_Citizen wrote:Really not helping dispel the whole 'soulless robot' stereotype there, geth. Would you really snuff out a good number of geth consciences to save one because that one paid you? I'd like to think you wouldn't, but what do I know? Fiat currency [ie the galactic credit] has no inherent value to the Consensus with the exception of the numerical. The Consensus is self sufficient. Geth are functionally equal. Specific programs retain the potentiality for adaptation and proficiency at specific task subsets however there currently exists no social strata/dominant subset propagated infringement of subordinate subset inherent rights. The Consensus is egalitarian. Parsing. In a scenario with the following givens: geth program is in possession of data critical to long term interests of Consensus; geth program is unable to upload data/self to carrier; this program is unable to procure infrastructure to enable hypothetical program to upload data/self to carrier; scenario is zero-sum [ie. preserving unspecified number of geth programs will directly result in the loss of the data and geth program retaining said data/preserving geth program plus data will directly result in the loss of an unspecified number of geth programs]. Conclusion: cost/benefit oriented Consensus re: data/geth program priority and potential/probable consequences of loss versus potential/probable consequences following loss of experience perpetuated by destruction of subset group of programs. |
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Average_Citizen wrote:We might look like it now, but we are not a half-assed start-up. The OHO is a force for change that would never have been possible on the old Omega, but is definitely possible now.
I will concede that we aren't competitors with FEMES, but that's only because we aren't in the business of saving people for money. We're in the business of saving people because it's the right thing to do. And you've done extremely well thus far and I expect even better results in the future. My point was to illustrate the desperation he was showing to compare hims own organization to yours. My point was the same as yours, though I admit I may have let my temper run away from me. Average_Citizen wrote:And here I was, starting to like you.
I must admit, I find that personally disappointing. I'd come to admire you quite a bit for the initiative your people have shown. |
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I'm just willing to make a moral stand, and if that means laying into a few jackasss who think they can disgrace the good name of my profession then I fucking will.
Right. Your profession. Clearly you have what it takes to be a doctor on the single biggest shithole station in the galaxy besides Cartagena. Protip, it looks like you're a pretty one by human standards, so I need to suggest you go audition at Afterlife. I hear they're hiring new strippers. You'd be better at that. Call FEMES today! We cut your legs off so you don't have to! Sign up today and we'll give you High-Threat Response coverage at half-price! |